[rapsacnz]

Yeah, but no-one outside of the USA will buy their shitty cars. So ultimately, they won't be competitive and will go under.

[istjohn]

Americans won't have any other option than to buy expensive, high-maintenance ICE vehicles to keep these parasitic manufacturers afloat.

[cs_throwaway]

Evidence suggests people want these cars. They already cost more than smaller and cheaper alternatives. But people buy them anyway.

[Aloha]

How do you figure?

I can buy an electric car now, I can buy an ICE Car whats the difference?

[mylifeandtimes]

Do ICE cars come with ICE enforcement built in?

[hedora]

Also, if the US ever has another election, these regulations will flip back right to where they were.

[more_corn]

I’m reminded of the famous laconic line from Sparta: “If”

[potato3732842]

They're not gonna un-learn the expertise that results in nearly every fuel molecule combining with oxygen and turning into marketable power and fuel economy numbers. That just makes no sense.

Where they'll save money is chasing edge cases like cold start in certain ambient conditions, during shift points and whatnot. Most people don't really appreciate how much effort goes into emissions compliance in those sorts of transient conditions.

[grg0]

That is the real question to me. Surely ramping production of gas cars at the expense of a slower adoption of EV technology is a step backwards in the global market? Regardless of what you think of the EV regulations, isn't the underlying problem that local car manufacturers are simply not competitive?

EU car manufacturers have the same conundrum too as far as I know.

[tokioyoyo]

Yeah, honestly I don’t know how to look at these news other than admission to defeat compared to Chinese EVs that I keep seeing in every country that doesn’t have domestic car industry or huge tariffs against them.

[to11mtm]

Some of it is about maximizing their balance sheet.

The factories that existing ICE engines are made in, both their build and every retooling has a cost; being able to maximize the saleable product from that cost is in the best interests of the balance sheet.

This is a challenge for both the US as well as Japan which is why you see each doing different weird things to try and kick the can down the road or ignore it. But that's a deeper part of the rabbit hole.

[majormajor]

Do US-market Ford/Chevy/Ram/Jeeps do significant numbers internationally as-is?

[SoftTalker]

Lots of people don’t want EVs

[dzhiurgis]

All while killing brand (Voldemort) that actually is desired around the world