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pylua | 5 months ago

Assuming that they are in illegally, the U.S. is the party that should be upset. If you are going to do business in the U.S. then you need to follow us laws.

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yongjik|5 months ago

You can say you're (rightfully) upset, without throwing employees of a major investor onto a jail without functioning toilets.

The problem is that the US is sending deeply conflicting messages. Does it want Hyundai's investment or not? It's not that Hyundai needs to build a factory in the middle of nowhere in Georgia.

runsWphotons|5 months ago

It wants Hyundai's investment and it wants to create American jobs and also have Hyundai follow the laws. The extremity of the right is fueled by an apparently prevalent reluctance to enforce any rules.

binary132|5 months ago

It sounds weirdly like you’re saying that one of the conditions of Hyundai doing business in the US is that we turn a blind eye to them breaking our labor laws, but I’m sure you couldn’t really mean that.

pnw|5 months ago

They are not Hyundai employees. Hyundai subcontracted the work out, and the subcontractors failed to file for work visas.

The problem is Hyundai chose their subcontractors very poorly.

throwawaymaths|5 months ago

So companies should be able to bribe the government and skirt laws at their expedience?

Redoubts|5 months ago

> jail without functioning toilets.

This claim isn’t in the article. Articles that do mention the detention site mention one with a medical center and a library

ivewonyoung|5 months ago

> It's not that Hyundai needs to build a factory in the middle of nowhere in Georgia.

Then why is it doing so? I'm lost.

Are you implying that it's an act of charity towards the US with zero expectation of or potential for profit? Then why doesn't Hyundai just save the management trouble and donate to a charity?

karmasimida|5 months ago

I can see your argument here.

But if you take things at face value, this isn’t a case where ICE is going berserker mode. They went through investigation and obtained search warrants.

Regardless how they handle detention, the only conclusion is to send them back. Thankfully it seems swift so the workers won’t endure long uncertainty.

Last but not least. One of the arguments of said investment, is to boost local employment, in exchange of other benefits, mostly tax reduction. It is a two way door

pylua|5 months ago

I’m having trouble following this argument. Are you saying Hyundai built this factory expecting to gain nothing in return ?

It’s only logical that if you operate in the U.S. you follow basic U.S. laws.

JKCalhoun|5 months ago

Someone trying to be diplomatic might, for example, allow them a window of time within which to apply to extend their visas.

Redoubts|5 months ago

Why? they’re being subsidized to hire Americans, not exploit foreign undocumented workers

pylua|5 months ago

My reading of the situation is that it was done maliciously or with negligence. Extending the visa a non work visa doesn’t make any sense.

I have sympathy for the workers. In reality it is the immmigration attorneys or other members of the company who need to be sanctioned.

refurb|5 months ago

They never had valid work visas in the first place.