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newfocogi | 5 months ago

For others who, like me, didn't know what "clankers" are: it appears it's a popular derogatory term for robots or AI, arising from the Star Wars universe where clone troopers used the term as a derogatory term for droids.

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m463|5 months ago

well, actually:

The word clanker has been previously used in science fiction literature, first appearing in a 1958 article by William Tenn in which he uses it to describe robots from science fiction films like Metropolis.[2]

He actually taught science fiction and had lots of interesting stories of the classic era of scifi, like BEM's - a bug-eyed-monster, arms wrapped around a woman in s "brass brassiere".

hmmm.. which now I realize explains "the flat eyed monster"...

https://www.baen.com/Chapters/9781476780986/9781476780986___...

ramon156|5 months ago

So many people missing the meaning of clanker. Its a satirical way of talking about GPT's. Don't dig too deep

wyclif|5 months ago

It can actually mean both, depending on the context. Both meanings are valid.

dcminter|5 months ago

Thanks, all I could think of was a Harry Potter reference which definitely didn't fit!

catigula|5 months ago

It's also a pretty ineffective term because it's clearly somewhat endearing.

aaroninsf|5 months ago

I wouldn't say _popular_

It has a strong smell of "stop trying to make fetch happen, Gretchen."

toofy|5 months ago

it’s wildly popular, it’s all over tiktok, tiktok comments, twitch chats everywhere, my 11 yo niece and her friends say it when something looks ai, i literally heard a group of teenagers saying it in line at a restaurant today.

boston_clone|5 months ago

Aaron, I say this with love, but we're getting old buddy. We're no longer the generation that decides what's popular in pop culture. Mean Girls is 21 years old btw.

sniffers|5 months ago

It's commonly used in at least ten discords I'm in. It's pretty popular ime.

edm0nd|5 months ago

Fetch will never happen but clankers is already here and widely used.

ThrowawayR2|5 months ago

That's what I thought about "enshittification" but now it's all over the place.

ffsm8|5 months ago

Really? I could've sworn it was from Futurama, or at least preceding the 2000s, strange.

esseph|5 months ago

Per the Wikipedia article:

>The word clanker has been previously used in science fiction literature, first appearing in a 1958 article by William Tenn in which he uses it to describe robots from science fiction films like Metropolis.[2] The Star Wars franchise began using the term "clanker" as a slur against droids in the 2005 video game Star Wars: Republic Commando before being prominently used in the animated series Star Wars: The Clone Wars, which follows a galaxy-wide war between the Galactic Republic's clone troopers and the Confederacy of Independent Systems' battle droids.

Dracophoenix|5 months ago

There's a robot mafioso character named Clamps. Perhaps that's what you were thinking of?

aquova|5 months ago

Didn't they call them clankers in Battlestar Galactica?

glimshe|5 months ago

Don't confuse with "clUnker", an old car/machine.

fsckboy|5 months ago

nor with "clackers", and insanely dangerous early 70s toy consisting of two glass balls you smash together at accelerated speeds right in front of your face. I guess they were trying to make us feel better that they were taking our jarts away.

balamatom|5 months ago

Probably from the same onomatopoeia, though. A car-sized machine makes more of a clunk, while a person-sized machine makes more of a clank, when you smash either with that old monkey wrench and extreme prejudice

moffkalast|5 months ago

Just like the simulations

LetsGetTechnicl|5 months ago

I feel like it started as a joke, but now people are just using it as a stand-in for racial slurs against Black and brown people, and it's honestly sickening. Like TikToks of people making classically racist jokes about Black people but changing it to "clanker" as a workaround.

Gracana|5 months ago

Yeah, the whole "let's come up with a slur for <blank>" thing entices people to build their fictional racism on real racism, and it just devolves from there. I saw "wirebacks" thrown around recently, among others.

lagniappe|5 months ago

Why do people so badly want everything to be about race?

dcminter|5 months ago

Sadly there are no technological solutions to humans being arseholes to each other.

esseph|5 months ago

It's also used in RL when talking about Waymo or food delivery robots, or when talking about the automaton faction in Helldivers 2.

marknutter|5 months ago

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axus|5 months ago

I suppose this is similar to the debate over artificial rape porn. There are no victims, but we don't like the people on the other side so the speech itself becomes a problem.

aaroninsf|5 months ago

I wouldn't say popular

It has a strong smell of "stop trying to make fetch happen, Gretchen."

marcosdumay|5 months ago

I'm seeing a lot of it on the internet recently.

People were also starting to equate LLMs to the MS Office's Clippy. But somebody made a popular video showing that no, Clippy was so much better than LLMs in a variety or way, and people seem to have stopped.

IlikeKitties|5 months ago

It's great i've called an LLM a fucking clanker and got to human support as a result.

bloqs|5 months ago

forced memes are considerably easier than they used to be

bbor|5 months ago

It's definitely popular online, specifically on Reddit, Bluesky, Twitter, and TikTok. There's communities that have formed around their anti-AI stance[1][2][3], and after multiple organic efforts to "brainstorm slurs" for people who use AI[4], "clanker" has come out on top. This goes back at least 2 years[6] in terms of grassroots talk, and many more to the original Clone Wars usage[7].

For those who can see the obvious: don't worry, there's plenty of pushback regarding the indirect harm of gleeful fantasy bigotry[8][9]. When you get to the less popular--but still popular!--alternatives like "wireback" and "cogsucker", it's pretty clear why a youth crushed by Woke mandates like "don't be racist plz" are so excited about unproblematic hate.

This is edging on too political for HN, but I will say that this whole thing reminds me a tad of things like "kill all men" (shoutout to "we need to kill AI artist"[10]) and "police are pigs". Regardless of the injustices they were rooted in, they seem to have gotten popular in large part because it's viscerally satisfying to express yourself so passionately.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/

[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/LudditeRenaissance/

[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/aislop/

[4] All the original posts seem to have now been deleted :(

[6] https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/13x43b6/if_we_ha...

[7] https://web.archive.org/web/20250907033409/https://www.nytim...

[8] https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/clanke...

[9] https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/68364/1/cl...

[10] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-need-to-kill-ai-artist

duxup|5 months ago

I find the term a bit confusing as it's common use in my experience are folks who only vaguely have an idea what AI is. Not to say their concerns are wrong (very generally) but it's usage doesn't usually convey much knowledge about the topic. It conveys more passion and drama than sense in my experience.

Maybe that will change.

dist-epoch|5 months ago

From the world first robophobe, humano-fascist:

Robot Slur Tier List: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoDDWmIWMDg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpRRejhgtVI

Responding To A Clankerloving Cogsucker on Robot "Racism": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zAIqNpC0I0

GeoAtreides|5 months ago

>humano-fascist

?

Are you implying prioritizing Humanity uber alles is a bad thing?! Are you some kind of Xeno and Abominable Intelligence sympathizer?!

The Holy Inquisition will hear about this, be assured.

noduerme|5 months ago

For anyone who struggles to understand what fascism is, the comment above is fascist trolling in its purest form.

And here's why:

The essence of fascism is to explain away hatred toward other groups of people by dehumanizing them. The hatred of an outside group is necessary, in the fascist framework, to organize one group of people into a unit who will follow a leader unquestioningly. Taking part in crimes against the outside group helps bind these people to the leader, who absolves them of their normal sense of guilt.

A fascist will use "fascist" to sarcastically refer to themselves in ridiculous scenarios, e.g. as a human defending humanity against robots, or a human exterminating rats. All of this is to knowingly deploy it in a way that destigmatizes being called a fascist, while also suggesting that murderous measures taken by past fascist movements have not been genocidal, but have been defending humans against subhumans. I'm not joking. Supposedly taking pride in being an anti-AI fascist is just a new twist on a very old troll. It's designed to mock and make light of mass murder, by suggesting that e.g. Nazism was no different from a populist movement defending themselves against machines, e.g. Jews.

Don't be seduced by the above comment's attempt at absurdist humor. This type of humor is typical of fascist dialect. It aims to amuse the simple-minded with superficial comparisons. It is deep deception disguised as harmless humor. Its true purpose has nothing to do with humans versus AI. Its dual purposes are to whitewash the meaning of fascism and to compare slaughtering "sub human groups" to defending humanity against AI.

SLWW|5 months ago

JREG is the only Canadian I would accept as a Presidential Candidate for the US, and i don't even agree with half of what he says. I just think he'd do a better job than most.