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cataflam | 5 months ago

> outside of the West

you probably mean outside of the USA, it's huge in Europe/UK

(which doesn't contradict your main point)

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kwanbix|5 months ago

It is huge in Latin America.

USA is special because it is the (only?) country where iPhone has more users than Android.

brazukadev|5 months ago

It's crazy how an US company dominates the world's messaging market but not in the US

101008|5 months ago

Yeah, huge in Latin America in the sense that a lot (most?) business only have a number that they use with Whatsapp (you can't call or even text them). Is it the same in Europe? Since I am from Latin America I never know if people from other continents use Whatsapp as much as we do, and if when I ask them to use Whatsapp I am imposing a new app or it's what they regularly use.

heresie-dabord|5 months ago

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-ma...

Sgt_Apone|5 months ago

iPhone has more users than Android in Canada and Japan as well. I think some Nordic countries too.

thaumasiotes|5 months ago

I would have thought he meant "inside of the West". Outside of the West you have other channels.

Russia: Telegram

Taiwan: Line

Japan: Line

By contrast, WhatsApp is best known to me for being used in Europe, Australia, and India.

RyJones|5 months ago

Japan is mostly Instagram, line, WhatsApp, telegram, in that order, for me.

For business comms drop instagram and move WhatsApp to first.

For Singapore it seems LinkedIn messages are the go to IM for business.

Europe p2p: telegram number one by a huge margin, then WhatsApp. B2b: WhatsApp, period.

throwaway290|5 months ago

Telegram is degraded/blocked in russia depending where you are and how authorities feel today

N19PEDL2|5 months ago

I think the most used messaging app in Russia now is Max.

jjani|5 months ago

Central Asia is Telegram as well.

zer0zzz|5 months ago

I’m not sure that’s true. I’m fairly certain UK, France, AU, Canada WhatsApp is not vastly more popular than the blue bubble alternative. At least I believe this was the case a few years ago, based on data I’d seen.

cataflam|5 months ago

France and UK, from personal experience, whatsapp is big, especially for professional use, or friends/family groups.

Blue bubble isn't really a thing ever mentioned in France either, not enough iPhone market share.

OJFord|5 months ago

I'm in the UK, I don't even know what 'the blue bubble alternative' is (Signal? Telegram?), everyone's on WhatsApp.