[armarr]

Do they really need to be anything more than the best European option to be successful?

[bakugo]

Are they the best European option, though? I haven't checked, but surely there's at least a few services hosted in the EU offering DeepSeek etc inference.

[hobofan]

I think that's a very valid question.

Most German "Mittelstand" I have encountered, that are generally on the more conservative side when it comes to data privacy are still fine with leaning on e.g. Azure with OpenAI models.

Only when you move towards really high security and governmental organizations is when Mistral is usually being brought up as an option.

[XorNot]

I'm pretty sure Europe doesn't want to cede AI development entirely to China.

[armarr]

That's EU hosted but not EU trained