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TheBicPen | 5 months ago

> First-passed-the-post voting is fundamentally flawed, and so is ranked choice...

What voting system so you think is best? None are perfect but IMO ranked choice is the best as it keeps the good attributes of FPTP without suffering from the spoiler effect

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JoshTriplett|5 months ago

When most people say "ranked choice" they seem to refer to IRV, which is broken in multiple ways, but most notably that it has the property that ranking someone higher can make them lose and ranking someone lower can make them win. That happens because IRV ignores all of someone's preferences except their top choice, until their top choice is thrown out, at which point IRV looks at their next preference.

There are much better systems: approval (for simplicity, at the expense of more accurate preference information) and Condorcet (for accuracy, at the expense of making it more difficult to explain tie-breaker corner cases to the average person).

dragonwriter|5 months ago

Ranked Choice Voting (aka Instant Runoff Voting) is the single worst of the very many seriously proposed ranked ballots method; it retains most of what is bad about FPTP. It is somewhat easier to tally than the best (in terms of the logic of who wins) ranked ballots methods (methods satisfying the Condorcet criterion), but not particularly good even on that among all ranked ballots methods, e.g., it can be improved in that dimension by just adding all preferences of the next rank until a candidate crosses the maiority threshold without elimination, which also reduces the degree to which the system is prone to paradoxical effects (promoting a candidate causing them to lose by changing the order others are eliminated.)

unethical_ban|5 months ago

River method is better, but any ranked method is better than approval for sure, and literally any multiple-choice method is better than FPTP.

>adding all preferences of the next rank until a candidate crosses the maiority threshold without elimination

I don't follow, what method is that?

trod1234|5 months ago

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nemomarx|5 months ago

you're getting the karma for calling Harris a communist not for making the very normal observation that first past the post is a bad system

Harris was promising to be tough on border and crime and to expand the military, she was basically a bush Republican

theshackleford|5 months ago

What an extraordinary complex you’ve developed.