[powersnail]

I sincerely hope that apple will consider making a phone with a worse camera that is flatter. As someone who rarely takes photos, and never photos of importance, the bump is just a dead weight to me. My dream phone has a body like iPhone 12 mini (which I currently use) without the protruding camera. As long as it runs all the common communication apps reliably, I'm happy. I'll pay $100 more than the standard body version even. But it doesn't seem like apple (or any notable phone brand) thinks this is worth doing.

It's the peril of being a niche customer. I can and have voted with my wallet, but it doesn't nudge the needle anyway.

[bjarneh]

> As someone who rarely takes photos, and never photos of importance

Even people who do take photos often would probably gladly sacrifice some image quality to loose that massive thing on the back of the phone. The thinness of the phone almost make it look worse as long as that camera sticks out like that; like a huge watch with a thin strap or something...

[conductr]

> My dream phone has a body like iPhone 12 mini (which I currently use) without the protruding camera.

Sounds similar to the iPhone 4, still my favorite of all the form factors in terms of "hand feel". It was the right thickness for me, just a bit heavy for it's size. If they refreshed it to reduce weight and extended the screen to the borders I think it would be amazing

[aziaziazi]

Have you tried the iPhone SE 1st gen ? Lighter, better processor and screen but almost same design. It’s only 9.5yo and still works perfectly, you can find plenty second hand for 100€.

[nxpnsv]

Agree, the 4 was great (except the home button which broke).

[liamwire]

If you take Apple's presentation at face value, most of the iPhone Air hardware is within the plateau, with the rest of the body being almost entirely battery. So it's not immediately obvious that even if they did do away with the bump, that there'd be a useable phone left over once considering the necessary reduction in battery size.

[flashyhuckle]

You might want to check the 16e. It has 16 insides (without magsafe and uwb chip), with screen from 14 and not very protruding (although still) but good camera. Its also cheaper than base model iphone.

[jjcob]

16e with a skinny case, and you have a completely flat phone

[aprilnya]

it looks like the bump doesn’t have just the camera but also some other stuff like the processor ?

[Mistletoe]

I agree with this so much. I recently upgraded to the 13 Mini and had to go back to the 12 Mini because I hated the big camera thing on the back. I actually like the 12 Mini camera more than the 13 Mini also. It felt like the 13 Mini couldn’t take close up photos worth a damn.

[darren0]

Pixel 9a is the closest to a no bump phone out of the major brands.