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quxbar | 5 months ago

I won't even look at a youtube video essay about an obscure vintage RPG (my preferred form of guilty pleasure viewing) if it's under 20 minutes long.

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moduspol|5 months ago

I prefer my movie reviews to be longer in duration than the movies themselves.

mystifyingpoi|5 months ago

Me too, but then it's no longer a review honestly. More like a breakdown or analysis.

bitwize|5 months ago

How many pizza rolls have you sent to that guy's webzone?

xhrpost|5 months ago

I watched a 2 hour video on the history of computer RPGs, I think it was specific to DND, and found it captivating. Would also like to hear your recs.

echelon|5 months ago

I hate this bifurcation.

I almost never want 2-hour documentary style videos, yet 1-minute teasers leave me even more dissatisfied.

I want 5-minute to 15-minute videos. They can be either overviews or summaries that cover broad stretches or super focused essays that go deeply in depth on just a singular hyper-focused point.

Long-form typically means opinionated and written for a lay audience. Filled with unnecessary pregnant pauses, fluff, and breathing room. Historians trying to craft a narrative.

Stop wasting your viewer's precious time on b-roll or building a case. Smart audiences will trust you if you're succinct and factual.

So take the heinously verbose documentary format, trim it down to just 10 to 15 minutes, and you're left with a fast-paced, frenetic, fully dehydrated, factual blow-by-blow.

That's the sweet spot. Maximum information density.

brokencode|5 months ago

What was it? I would also like a rec in this genre.

Analemma_|5 months ago

I understand the motivation but this mindset has failure modes of its own: I'm noticing an increasing number of longform YouTube essay channels adding tons of unnecessary padding to increase the runtime. They don't all do this-- to pick a random example, I think Defunctland videos are exactly as long as they need to be-- but a bunch of the smaller ones do. Ultimately there's no metric shortcut for actual quality.

cogman10|5 months ago

The other failure is that youtube wants quantity over quality. That incentivizes some bad behaviors. The hbomber video about plagerism is ultimately about that. Taking shortcuts, using 3rd parties (or now AI) to write scripts. It's all really negatively impacted the medium.

AI in particular is like coke to lazy content makers. I've had to drop a few because it became clear that AI took the lead in writing.

giancarlostoro|5 months ago

In my case, YouTube has figured out that I love Pokemon videos where the streamer does really silly things with old Pokemon games (like resetting the emulator 9001 times to find a shiny in order to have a full on Shiny only pokedex, including the starter pokemon. In my case I don't care how long the videos are though.

fennecbutt|5 months ago

Easier than soft resetting for real I guess. An ex used to be into that, it always seemed mind numbing to me but perhaps it's almost therapeutic for others.

bo-tao|5 months ago

Lol that sounds interesting, can you share the video?

malignblade|5 months ago

Going to need some recommendations

bigyabai|5 months ago

Second Wind is up and running with (2012's favorite) Yahtzee Crowshaw running the ship. An episode of Fully Ramblomatic runs a chipper >10min with barely a second to spare.

Night_Thastus|5 months ago

For gaming:

Joseph Anderson, NeverKnowsBest, SuperBunnyHop and MandaloreGaming are the ones that come to mind. They've uncovered so much about games that I never knew was there! :)

I think some would recommend Matthewmatosis, Hbomberguy and Raycevick as well, I'm just less familiar with their work personally.

trenchpilgrim|5 months ago

Jwlar

Mandaloregaming

Josh Strife Plays

The Sphere Hunter

Hovertruck|5 months ago

Check out Majuular

tmtvl|5 months ago

Bobbin Threadbare.

coldpie|5 months ago

A fellow Basement Brothers viewer??

mid-kid|5 months ago

Most of the 20+ minute long videos are bound to be filled to the brim with filler and bullshit. I'm not asking for much, but please stop pretending your video game review is worth an hour of introductions, personal anecdotes, comedy sketches and 3 sponsor ads.