[pfooti]

These little front-back symmetric buses (as well as engineering-outfitted minivans) are pretty common in the mission in SF as well. I see them all the time in a very small (four or so blocks around 16th and folsom where my pottery studio is) area, but I think they're all still just test driving.

As a waymo user, I'm looking forward to a little more competition in the market. I quite like waymo, but driving price down woudl be great.

[culopatin]

The pricing wave Waymo went through is interesting. After the limited access you’d often find them offering same or cheaper rides than Uber/Lyft. People tried them and realized they arrive without the whiplash you get from a start/stop Tesla uber in SF, no smells, no weird interactions. Every person we talked to prefers the Waymo even with its quirks and getting stuck sometimes. Now waymo is 3x uber every time I check it. I’ve gotten rides across the city for $6 on Uber, not sure what driver is making any money at that rate. Per hour you’re much better off working at In and out.

[0x457]

I think it's just demand driven pricing. Ever since they went GA in LA I see them doing pick-ups and drop-offs all the time from my windows.

[modeless]

I see riders in them occasionally. I think they must be open for employee rides.