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benbayard | 5 months ago

Why was a post about Melissa Hortman being killed flagged and removed but this post is allowed to stay up? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44279203 See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44276916

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zamadatix|5 months ago

You can email hn@ycombinator.com to verify, but I'm willing to bet the charged comment mob flagged it before a mod had a chance to see the post and protect it. This jives with other posts, such as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44277177, being "allowed". The second may have met the same fate, or possibly have been considered a dupe by some users who had already seen the other postings of the same story active.

If you can catch posts you think are unfairly flagged as they happen you can also send them to hn@ycombinator.com. Even if it's a day late they can unflag it, second chance it, and/or watch the comments.

The mods hold a strong opinion that making the moderation log public in some way (so these kinds of things can be seen directly) would cause more problems and discontent than it would solve. I strongly disagree, but I respect that the mods have always delivered satisfactory answers for me when using the emailing process - which is their main counterpoint to the need for a public log.

zahlman|5 months ago

Your second link stayed up and was quite popular. The first one is clearly not in the same category: the CBC reporting on current events is quite apart from an Axios editorial.

zamadatix|5 months ago

Based on my memory, GP's second link did not show as being up when they shared it and seems to have only changed after the fact. I also find this (much older) archive which at least showed [flagged] when it was at 75 votes https://web.archive.org/web/20250614213042/https://news.ycom...

Another shameless note that this is the kind of thing I think a public moderation log would really help.

twixfel|5 months ago

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benbayard|5 months ago

My original comment was getting a lot of traction originally and has been on a downward spiral since, down to 41 at the time of this.

zerohp|5 months ago

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zahlman|5 months ago

> HN is a techno right wing site

We're talking about the same site that constantly has submissions from politically biased sources alluding to various ways that the orange man is bad, where comments pushing standard right-wing talking points are frequently flagged and killed within minutes, and a recent Ask HN seriously entertained the question of whether HN is "fascist" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44598731) because the "orange man is bad" posts get flagged?

another_twist|5 months ago

Not fair. Its not right wing or any wing. I think the decent thing to do is not speak ill of the dead. I didnt like him, I barely took notice of what he did. He was not on any side just on the side of opportunity. But there is no solution to be found in violence.

Spastche|5 months ago

this place does a very good of portraying it's self as neutral, rational and logical, but it's definitely not any of that.

kjkjadksj|5 months ago

I’ve noticed a trend where posts that paint conservatives in a bad light are quickly flagged before getting any traction here. And then this one doing the opposite is one of the most voted and commented on ever for this website. It blew up during work hours when this board is usually quite slow too.

kjkjadksj|5 months ago

And case in point, that comment is already getting the downvotes...