That's quite an insult! I wonder how many foreign workers (or foreigners in general) take the eventuality of getting "randomly" detained into account while travelling into USA.
As someone from Europe (the Netherlands), it is an important reason for me to no longer consider to travel to the USA. The idea of the possibility to be deported to a prison facility in South America or Africa, with no due process is simply terrifying.
I would strongly advice any fellow countrymen not to travel to the USA, especially if they are not 'pure' white. There are many Dutch with Dutch parents that are not 'pure' white, because they have a Chinese, an Indonesian, a Caribbean, an Italian, a Spanish, a Moroccan, or a Turkish ancestor (to mention just some possibilities).
It's definitely a growing concern, coworkers visiting their home countries have been half-jokingly saying "see you in X weeks, assuming everything goes fine at the border" and even US citizens and permanent residents are being strongly encouraged to plan out contingencies (remote work, what to say to maybe be able to contact the immigration attorney if detained etc) with the company before leaving, just in case.
I do. Never been to US since the Patriot act, a have a several-million dollars small startup and would love to see Colorado and California, why not move there, but I’m just afraid of TSA.
On the other hand, I envy USA for enforcing their visas. Europe follows American criminality stats by 10 years, so when we used to mock USA for George Floyd, we’re now in it; for Korean shop owners, we’re now in it; For random knives in busses, we’re in it, and with school shootings, it’s just a matter of time until it happens.
And European people are much farther away from reaching the conclusion that law must be enforced in multicultural nations.
fjfaase|5 months ago
I would strongly advice any fellow countrymen not to travel to the USA, especially if they are not 'pure' white. There are many Dutch with Dutch parents that are not 'pure' white, because they have a Chinese, an Indonesian, a Caribbean, an Italian, a Spanish, a Moroccan, or a Turkish ancestor (to mention just some possibilities).
sandworm101|5 months ago
Absolutely every canadian crossing at a land border. The steady number of horror stories is keeping them away.
(Air travel is less impacted as canadian pre-clearance proceedures mean anyone rejected by ICE will not also be detained by them.)
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eastbound|5 months ago
On the other hand, I envy USA for enforcing their visas. Europe follows American criminality stats by 10 years, so when we used to mock USA for George Floyd, we’re now in it; for Korean shop owners, we’re now in it; For random knives in busses, we’re in it, and with school shootings, it’s just a matter of time until it happens.
And European people are much farther away from reaching the conclusion that law must be enforced in multicultural nations.
pjc50|5 months ago
Crime committed by the police.
> Korean shop owners
What's criminal about Korean shops?
> school shootings
Gun control means no more school shootings. See Dunblane.
> law must be enforced in multicultural nations
Nobody ever said it shouldn't, but it has to be enforced in a fair and even-handed way.
4ggr0|5 months ago
per usual it's the other cultures causing the fuss, right.