[davidweatherall]

Their proprietary models are very good too and go under the radar, they never seem to appear on any benchmarks. Qwen3-coder-plus is significantly better than their open source qwen3, Qwen3 max also rivals the SOTA models

[ehsanu1]

Are these actually different models vs just different names from the open weights releases?

[Havoc]

They generally match, except I don't think the Max ones have releases