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tziki | 5 months ago

Exactly this. Top 1% of artists earn about as much as the average software engineer. Ranking people purely based on salary is turning h1b into a visa for people in specific professions.

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handoflixue|5 months ago

Genuinely curious: why do we need H1B visas for artists? My understanding is that H1B visas are meant to cover highly-skilled work that can't be done by locals, and "art" doesn't seem like a field with a shortage of local candidates?

colmmacc|5 months ago

Interestingly, there's a whole category of H1B visas just for fashion models. H-1B3, which is for models with "distinguished merit and ability".

A famous supermodel can most likely get an O1 visa, for people of extraordinary ability. But agency models more commonly work on H1-B. Melania Trump is a famous example. These visas are tied to an employer and there's less portability. It's a two tier system.

Personally I think that there is some harm here. Agencies bring in young women from relatively poor countries and they are put in conditions where abuse, even sexual assault, is common and can face pressures to tolerate conditions and shoots that a local person with a safety network would not.

AuthError|5 months ago

this also holds true for chemical, biomedical researchers, mechanical engineers working in deep tech, software engineering is such an anomaly that it's hard to do income based lottery without overindexing on swe market

jalapenos|5 months ago

You're not genuinely curious because it's obviously stupid that we'd need H1B visas for artists.

If their art's got enough value to be valuable in the real sense, they're well above all this. Otherwise they're nothing.

fakedang|5 months ago

Top 1% of artists have the O1 route, not the H1B route.

Tying H1B to salary is imo a reasonable solution for most companies. Thing is, in that case, most companies would simply resort to bringing in more L1 employees.

scheme271|5 months ago

L1 employees require that the company employ the person for a year at an international branch so this is only available to multi-national companies.

malfist|5 months ago

Does the US have such a shortage of artistic talent we have to hire abroad for it?

thephyber|5 months ago

Why get hung out on the example profession and not the fact that some jobs pay drastically disproportionate rates?

Linus developed Linux, but we wouldn’t be able to hire the next version of him because hedge funds would dominate the high salary reqs in this hypothetical system.

fooker|5 months ago

Short answer - yes.

There's no long answer.

jalapenos|5 months ago

AI literally produces more mesmerising art, for pennies, than an artist ever could, because their whole shtick was "out-there visual concepts", which was a wide open space of anything that's "not normal", which now and AI can pump out copiously.

Artistic talent is not important.

breadwinner|5 months ago

How about ranking on salary but by profession, so there should be a separate rank for software engineers vs. biomedical researchers.

jalapenos|5 months ago

I now write code related to biomedical research. Checkmate