[skimojoe]

I am sceptical if these persona based agents really make that much of a difference, and more "appear" to make a difference because of their talk style.

Underneath is just a system prompt, or more likely a prompt layered on top "You are a frontend engineer, competent in react and Next.js, tailwind-css" - the stack details and project layout, key information is already in the CLAUDE.md. For more stuff the model is going to call file-read tools etc.

I think its more theatre then utilty.

What I have taken to doing is having a parent folder and then frontend/ backend/ infra/ etc as children.

parent/CLAUDE.md frontend/CLAUDE.md backend/CLAUDE.md

The parent/CLAUDE.md provides a highlevel view of the stack "FastAPI backend with postgres, Next.js frontend using with tailwind, etc". The parent/CLAUDE.md also points to the childrens CLAUDE.md's which have more granular information.

I then just spawn a claude in the parent folder, set up plan mode, go back and forth on a design and then have it dump out to markdown to RFC/ and after that go to work. I find it does really well then as all changes it makes are made with a context of the other service.

[johntash]

I'm also skeptical partially because I don't like the huge essays generated by any llm. CLAUDE.md/AGENTS.md/README.md that are 5+ pages long are all equally bad imo. I prefer following the idea that if something is too verbose for me to want to get anything useful out of it, then the llm should behave similarly. Even if it's not true, why waste 2 paragraphs explaining something that could be explained in one short sentence?

My CLAUDE.md or AGENTS.md is usually just a bulleted list of reminders with high level information. If the agent needs more steering, I add more reminders. I try not to give it _too_ broad of a task without prior planning or it'll just go off the rails.

Something I haven't really experimented with is having claude generate ADRs [1] like your RFC/ idea. I'll probably try that and see how it goes.

[1]: https://adr.github.io/

[jrecyclebin]

One of the main things I put in my instructions is "hey I'm a solo dev and it's just you and me working on this stuff, so I'm looking for all responses to be concise." I think it helps to give your situation so that the output can be in the proximity of "solo dev" content - which is going to be more concise and practical by nature.

Kind of like telling it to generate Ghibli pics. These things are best at imitation.

[faangguyindia]

You don't need subagent, I shared this on ClaudeCode sub as well https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeCode/s/barbpBxG78

Subagents do not work well for coding at all

[CharlesW]

> Subagents do not work well for coding at all

Subagents can work very well, especially for larger projects. Based on this statement, I think you're experiencing how I felt in my early experience with them, and that your mental model for how to use them effectively is still embryonic.

I've found that the primary benefit for subagents is context/focus management. For example, I'm doing auth using Stytch. What I absolutely don't want to do is load https://stytch.com/docs/llms.txt and instructions for leveraging it in my CLAUDE.md. But it's perfect for my auth agent, and the quality of the output for auth-related tasks is far higher as a result.

A recommended read: https://jxnl.co/writing/2025/08/29/context-engineering-slash...

[rapind]

Subagents suffer from the same overriding problem with "Claude Contexting", which is context wrangling. Subagents "should" help to compartmentalize and manage your context better, but not in my experience so far. I found I was jumping through a lot of hoops with special instructions, manual compacts, up front super detailed plans, and MCPs just to manage my context. So subagents is probably the same, where you want to have it handle tasks that do not require context from your main thread.

P.S. I know they added 1m context to their API, with a price increase, but AFAIK the subscription still uses the 200k context.

[weird-eye-issue]

Subagents are literally built into Claude Code via a built-in tool where it can recursively call itself

[peepee1982]

I found a study a while ago that measured the effect of defining personas, and the effect was significant, but not very big. I like defining roles because I think it makes setting boundaries a bit easier. When I assign the role of architect for brainstorming, I expect the model to be a bit less eager to immediately jump into implementation. I'll still tell it explicitly to not do that, so the effect is probably extremely small.

So far, I find it much more important to define task scope and boundaries. If I want to implement a non-trivial feature, I'll have one role for analyzing the problem and coming up with a high-level plan, and then another role for breaking that plan down into very small atomic steps. I'll then pass each step to an implementation role and give it both the high-level plan and the whole list of individual steps as context, while making it clear that the scope is only to implement that one specific step.

I've had very good results with this so far, and once the two main documents are done, I can automate this with a small orchestration script (that does not depend on an LLM and is completely deterministic) going through the list and passing each item to an implementation agent sequentially, even letting the agent create a commit message after every step so I can trace its work afterwards. I've had very clean long-running tasks this way with minimal need for fixing things afterwards. I can go to bed in the evening and launch it and wake up to a long list of commits.

With the new 6 dollar subscription by Z.ai which includes 120 prompts (around 2000 requests) every 5 hours, I can pretty much let this run without having to worry about exceeding my limits.

[chickensong]

I too am skeptical about the personas, but I still use them to organize context and instructions for different types of work. I use a top-level .agents dir, with commands, roles, and rules, sub-dirs.

CLAUDE.md is kept somewhat lean, with pointers to individual files in ./docs/ and .claude/commands is a symlink to .agents/commands.

After starting Claude, I use /commands to load a role and context, which pulls in only the necessary docs and avoids, say, loading UI design or test architecture docs, when adding a backend feature.

I don't want to have to do any of this, but it helps me try and keep the agents on the rails and minimize context rot.

[rf15]

This concept is in the novel Accelerando - so I think once again it's just AI-fans LARPing, just like the rest of the current LLM hype

[pozol]

Ive been struggling to get frontend/backend aware claude code working in a way I like. So are you saying you plan it out with the parent one, and then have it output a file in some format that you then pass to the frontend and backend claude’s individually? but those “sub claudes” don’t actually have the other repo’s context?

[kookamamie]

Agreed, the roles seem more cerenonial than anything else.