[gHA5]

Are you using Pydantic AI for structured output? If so, have you also tried instructor?

[mmargenot]

`outlines` (https://github.com/dottxt-ai/outlines) is very good and supported by vLLM as a backend structured output provider (https://docs.vllm.ai/en/v0.8.2/features/structured_outputs.h...) for both local and remote LLMs. vLLM is probably the best open source tooling for the inference side right now.

[colonCapitalDee]

I did look at instructor and probably for structured output pydantic-ai and instructor are about the same, but pydantic-ai supports a ton of other stuff that isn't part of instructor's feature set. For me killer apps were the ability to serialize/deserialize conversations as json; frictionless tool-calling; and ability to mock the LLM client for testing.

[maxdo]

I personally just switched to https://docs.boundaryml.com/guide/comparisons/baml-vs-pydant...

just feels a bit more polished. especially testing part.

[Aherontas]

Haven't tried balm, I will give it a shot, I am really curious to see all the features it supports.