[oVerde]

So basically you live JavaScript free?

[Xelbair]

as much as i can yes.

I try to avoid JS, as it is a horrible language, by design. That does include TS, but it at least is useable, but barely - because it still tied to JS itself.

[diggan]

Off-topic, but I love how different programmers think about things, and how nothing really is "correct" or "incorrect". Started thinking about it because for me it's the opposite, JS is an OK and at least usable language, as long as you avoid TS and all that comes with it.

Still, even I who'd call myself a JavaScript developer also try to avoid desktop applications made with just JS :)

[hoppp]

Lucky you. I keep coming back to it because jobs and even for desktop apps a native webview beats everything else.

We fcked up with js, big time and its with us forever now

[kaiomagalhaes]

out of sincere curiosity, which one is a great programming language to you?

[shkkmo]

You can write javascript without using npm...

[Arch-TK]

I mean, it's hard to avoid indirectly using things that use npm, e.g. websites or whatever. But it's pretty easy to never have to run npm on your local machine, yes.