[superice]

Yes, and I want FireWire. Oh, and I'd really prefer 16 bit real mode CPUs. While we're at it, why not go for support for serial connection mice?

This reads like such an arbitrary wish without a reasoning WHY you would want this. I'm sure OP has a reason for preferring it, but what makes the 80x25 superior in their opinion?

[dijit]

I think the author is making the argument for consistency.

I actually always disliked the modeset that the author remembers fondly, but it is always sad to lose part of our history for arbitrary reasons and especially so if it breaks a ungoverned consistency.

To use your example: Real mode still exists and you can use it, and firewire is effectively the father of Thunderbolt (and granddaddy to Thunderbolt 3-4); so its removal really does feel unnecessary without additional context.

Serial mice is masochism, but people do dislike that PS/2 is gone, for good reasons.

[bombcar]

One reason it could be nice is what I experienced a decade or so ago, the damn machine kept changing video modes during boot and the LCD couldn't keep up so an important screen was missed when diagnosing a boot issue.

Had to get a CRT to see what the hell was going on.

[IcePic]

This even applies to remove-viewing software that wants to "follow" the resolution changes, flipping your remote window size around a lot. Super annoying.

[jcalvinowens]

I don't really get the 80x25 thing, but using dumb terminals to write code is great. Zero distractions.

More than half the code I've been paid to write in the past 2-3 years has been written in vim running on a vtty with no X and no mouse. It's my favorite way to work, although occasionally it's impractical.

[bpye]

You can still plug in a FireWire PCIe card and have it work - I still use one for an old 35mm film scanner.

I think serial mice should still work as well - https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Serial_mouse

[kotaKat]

Apple has finally depreciated Firewire with macOS 26, sadly.

Serial mice still also just work in Windows, too! If you attach a serial mouse to a USB-serial adapter, then attach the adapter, Windows should pick up and load sermouse.sys. On the flipside, if you’ve got a weird serial device attached screaming garbage out the wire, Windows might pick THAT up and load the mouse driver, too… “hey, why is my cursor freaking out?”

[autoexec]

The author listed several reasons why they want it.

Also, it should still be possible to connect a serial mouse to a modern system thanks to adapters. I still have serial to PS/2 and PS/2 to USB adapters floating around in a tackle box.

[cyberax]

> PS/2 to USB adapters floating around in a tackle box.

Heh. [Most] PS/2 to USB adapters aren't.

They don't actually adapt the PS/2 protocol to USB, they just adapt the pins. The USB _hardware_ on the host does the emulation. However, the new generations of USB chips stopped bothering with the PS/2 emulation so these adapters are now useless.

[Galanwe]

> The author listed several reasons why they want it.

To be fair, they listed reasons to need a 80x25 terminal, but not reasons to need a 80x25 console. I'm a bit unclear as to why they could not use a regular 80x25 term in their graphical session.

[burnt-resistor]

Chill out and stop judging people with such unnecessary histrionics.