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andrewchambers | 5 months ago

I've seen a large number of comments online saying the shooter was a trump supporter - I don't really understand where that information comes from.

I feel like this is the sort of thing a prediction market might be able sort out.

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suzdude|5 months ago

There are multiple statements from his relatives that his family are "MAGA", his parents are Registered Republicans.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/ty...

It seems he was "raised right", with easy access to firearms and ammunition. Items not nearly as common in left voting urban areas.

However, Mr. Kimmel's comments centered on the fact that his political leanings, and reasoning for the school shooting are not entirely clear.

kelnos|5 months ago

> There are multiple statements from his relatives that his family are "MAGA", his parents are Registered Republicans.

To be fair, that doesn't necessarily say anything about his politics. I know plenty of liberals with MAGA parents. I don't think we can draw any conclusions as to his politics at this time.

Redoubts|5 months ago

> There are multiple statements from his relatives that his family are "MAGA", his parents are Registered Republicans.

Most leftists despise their parents politics. None of this suggests a rightward leaning of the culprit himself.

fdschoeneman|5 months ago

It was well known before Kimmel made his comments that the shooter was in a romantic relationship with a trans woman. Having said that, even if he did not know about that relationship it was irresponsible of Kimmel to repeat rumors he could not have known were true that the shooter was maga.

seanw444|5 months ago

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ceejayoz|5 months ago

Confused politics isn’t all that unusual; look at Caitlyn Jenner for a concrete example. Add in the usual bad blood between well-armed groups and it certainly happens.

I wish everyone would wait a week for actual reliable info to come out. I wish we weren’t getting a bunch of said info from deeply partisan and untrustworthy fuckwits.

Neither end result would shock me.

cloverich|5 months ago

My bias in these cases is that the simplest answer, same as any mass shooting, is that the killers motivations are a manifestation of mental illness and nothing more. Not always true but typically so; wasnt the trump would be assassin not left for instance? When i was told that i wasnt surprised, not because i think it was more likely of someone on the right, but because i think its mostly random. Eg we have a gun culture, a toxic culture, and a lack of mental health institutions culture. That will only ever produce (among other things) a consistent stream of random acts of violence.

In this particular case i am a little more curious than usual to find out if that holds up here if only because the narrative was so immediately anti left attacks.

halfmatthalfcat|5 months ago

Are you saying there are no conservatives who are attracted to those who identify as trans? Not too long ago you could say the same thing about being conservative and being attracted to the same sex, yet that isn't something be bat an eye at anymore.

krisboyz781|5 months ago

Ahhh yes, whose entire family is maga and lives in the most conservative state in America

andrewchambers|5 months ago

My point isn't really about what is correct or incorrect in this case.

My point is about making it so that you have to actively risk money to push the truth needle in the wrong direction.