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thepasswordis | 5 months ago

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scheeseman486|5 months ago

> What Kimmel Said, and the affiliates broadcasted, was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter.

This is the actual quote:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,"

Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA, only that those within the right wing influencer sphere were desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them. This is unambiguously and factually true.

I swear, media literacy in the united states is in the fucking toilet.

autoexec|5 months ago

Really, literacy in generally is tanking in the US. In 2024 over half the adults in the country couldn't even read at a sixth grade level! 21% are outright illiterate.

andsoitis|5 months ago

> MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them

> Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA

then who does the "them" refer to?

dismalaf|5 months ago

"My wife wants to go for dinner but I'd like to eat anything other than fish."

Strongly implies the wife in the sentence wants to eat fish.

Anyone with a moderate grasp of English understands what Kimmel was implying.

"Trying to characterize him as anything other than one of them". <- The implication is definitely that he's "one of them".

JumpCrisscross|5 months ago

> he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA, only that those within the right wing influencer sphere were desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them. This is unambiguously and factually true.

I'll put it in the technically true but ambiguously misinformation category. (Which is on every metric better than what goes on at Fox.)

novemp|5 months ago

> There’s a relatively narrow rule which prohibits fcc licensed stations from knowing broadcasting false information if it has the possibility of creating civil unrest.

Oh wow, I didn't realize Fox News wasn't FCC-licensed.

flutas|5 months ago

> fcc licensed stations

Think your local K[3 letter] west of the Mississippi, W[3 letter] east of the Mississippi*.

Not "Showtime" or "HBO" or "Cartoon Network" or "CNN" or "Fox News" or "MSNBC".

That's why the affiliates started pulling it, because their license is what's on the line, not ABC/Disney directly.

*: Except for KDKA, KYW, WFAA, WBAP, WOAI, WDAY, and WNAX.

jiggawatts|5 months ago

> was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter.

I just watched the video.

What he said was that MAGA supporters were too quick to blame anyone but the right, before there was any evidence about the shooter’s identity or political stance.

That’s a fact.

sapphicsnail|5 months ago

Do you not think the decision was political?

ummonk|5 months ago

He never said he was a MAGA supporter but that he was being claimed to be not “one of them”. Given that the shooter came from a conservative family in a conservative town and attended trade school and spent his time gaming, I think it’s reasonable to say that he was a product of the right wing milieu, and not a product of left wing indoctrination as the right alleges.

siliconc0w|5 months ago

He also shot the guy with his Dad's Dad's gun. It turns out that if you keep a gun around, it'll eventually be used to shoot someone.

thepasswordis|5 months ago

The fact that you believe this is the exact reasoning behind trying to prevent things like what Jimmy Kimmel did here.

It could not be more cut and dry than this. In fact it is so cut and dry that a conspiracy theory on both the left and the right is that the text messages demonstrating his political motivations aren’t genuine.

tcn33|5 months ago

what a load of bullshit.