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sleepychu | 5 months ago

I'd love to get a cargo bike and use it for kid transport.

I would be worried about collision safety though, I am not going to persuade everyone in my neighborhood to stop using cars in a hurry and there are not bike routes between me and school, library, shops, ...

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awongh|5 months ago

This is the classic urbanist anti-bike tragedy of the commons that is referenced often.

People use cars because they are (rightly) concerned about safety. People avoid using bikes because there are so many cars. It’s very hard to ban cars or restrict car usage because it seems like no one wants to use bikes, but it’s a self-reinforcing system.

cogogo|5 months ago

And the losers that neither (gross generalization here) the bike people or the car people care about are the pedestrians. We are lucky to live in an urban environment where our family of 5 usually walks everywhere. Crossing the street with children is an unwelcome adventure. But you are absolutely right I would ride an ebike with the kids if it did not seem so dangerous.

HPsquared|5 months ago

Solution: make cars safer (as in, less likely to harm others) through road design, and things like automated emergency braking and self-driving.

Then the cars are safer both for the occupants and pedestrians/cyclists, so paradoxically people might be more inclined to walk or cycle.

wombatpm|5 months ago

You obviously do not live in Chicago or Minneapolis. Winters make this a nonstarter

gazook89|5 months ago

I have an Urban Arrow since the beginning of last February and live in Minneapolis. I’ve used it about 5 days a week for getting my pre-k kid and newborn to the places we need to be, since we bought it. Each day it’s between 6 and 26 miles. That upper end comes from busy days, probably once or twice a month I get above 20 miles in a single day. Definitely not doing that on the coldest days. Studded tires really help.

One unexpected benefit is that the muddy/wet boots don’t muss up the bike like they would if I was loading them into a car. Just drips out the bottom grate.

Lots of other small benefits but not so related to winter.

throwaway2037|5 months ago

You think that people don't ride bikes in the winter in Finland or Sweden? Riding in the snow with "snow tyres" for your bike is normal. There are whole YouTube videos about the phenom.