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wbnns | 5 months ago

It's really difficult to build agentic applications on top of Bitcoin. It's generally possible throughout the EVM however, which is many networks, not just Base. Base won't be the only EVM-compatible network that x402 utilizes.

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littlecranky67|5 months ago

That is why I said Layer-2, like Lightning. That is not difficult at all, there are already successfull, workable solutions that allow for automated micro-payments (alby, or Nostr's zaps).

wbnns|5 months ago

Debatable but IMO Lightning is still nascent even to this day. There is no real large ecosystem of interactive web applications available in-browser that you can build 402 offerings on top of. The EVM is light years ahead.

I'm by no means against Lightning, it's just got a long road of ecosystem, development and better UX ahead of it before we see general mainstream adoption. At the moment, bitcoin's killer feature is holding bitcoin. Most people don't know what Sats are. There are few bitcoin-payable apps. Few stable assets that remove volatility for every day payments like you would need with 402. Stuff like that.

thinkmassive|5 months ago

See also L402 (previously LSAT), which has been in production use for half a decade at this point, by Lightning Labs (for their products Loop & Pool) via their Aperture proxy.

https://l402.tech/

smashem|5 months ago

> It's really difficult to build agentic applications on top of Bitcoin.

That's because brain power is being corralled around entities that seek to maintain their control as toll keepers of financial transactions. They have to modernize and they must do it through centralized blockchains to maintain their control.

littlecranky67|5 months ago

You profile says "Ex-Coinbase" employee. 'Nuf said.

smashem|5 months ago

Also ex-Base! Gee whiz.