[spaniard89277]

Because now your manager will measure on LOCs against other engineers again and it's only software engineers worrying about complexity, maintainability, and, in summary, the health of the very creature it's going to pay your salary.

This is the new world we live in. Anyone who actually likes coding should seriously look for other venues because this industry is for other type of people now.

I use AI in my job. I went from tolerable (not doing anything fancy) to unbearable.

I'm actually looking to become a council employee with a boring job and code my own stuff, because if this is what I have to do moving forward, I rather go back to non-coding jobs.

[dhorthy]

i strongly disagree with this - if anything, using AI to code real production code in real complex codebase is MORE technical than just writing software.

Staff/Principal engineers already spend a lot more time designing systems than writing code. They care a lot about complexity, maintainability, and good architecture.

The best people I know who have been using these techniques are former CTOs, former core Kubernetes contributors, have built platforms for CRDTs at scale, and many other HIGHLY technical pursuits.

[svieira]

This is actually where the "myth" of the 10x engineer comes from - there do exist such people and they always could do more than the rest of us ... because they knew what to build. It's not 10K lines of code, it's _the right_ 10K lines of code. Whether using LLMs or LLVM to produce bytes the bytes produced are not the "τέχνη".

That said, I don't think it takes MORE τέχνη to use the machine, merely a distinct ἐμπειρία. That said, both ἐμπειρία and τέχνη aren't σοφία.