[skayvr]

My progression has been st -> kitty -> ghostty. I wanted to love st, but found too many unpolished corners. Kitty was great, but it felt like the exact opposite of st. Very large and opinionated. ghostty, at least originally, was new and something between st and kitty. With claude code I wonder where the landscape of personalized software will land. st and others may be on to something in this era.

[mmgutz]

[foot](https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot) is an excellent st alternative on wayland.

[skayvr]

Thanks, this is right down my alley. When I make the switch from X to Wayland, I'll check this out.

[zamalek]

I recently switched back to kitty from ghostty. Ghostty was taking > 1s to boot, and I really don't have the time to debug it.

[skayvr]

Funnily enough, I saw this too. Yesterday I upgraded from ghostty 1.0.0 to 1.2.0 and was hit with startup delay. 1.0.0 didn't have it. My delay was around 5s on a fresh reboot. However, after I opened a few ghostty windows, the delay went away. I'll be keeping my eye on it.

[dmd]

Odd. I’ve never had a new window or tab take more than maybe 20ms.

[calvinmorrison]

I spent a long time on the gtk vte based terminals (sakura, I wrote my own called svte later), then to st until i had too many patches stacked, then alacritty, but that took a long time to get to because I couldnt figure out how the kerning was different than ST!

Now i am on that and it is fine