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egisspegis | 5 months ago

Mariupol.

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ceejayoz|5 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Mariupol

> Ukrainian officials reported that approximately 25,000 civilians had been killed…

Even if every one of those 25k were kids, still no.

The actual report "Save the Children" cites is available at https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/4084012?ln=en&v=pdf - page three of the English report states:

> The violations verified in the greatest numbers were the killing (4,676) and maiming (7,291) of 11,967 children, the denial of humanitarian access (7,906 incidents), the recruitment and use of children (7,402) and the abduction of children (4,573). The number of children detained for actual or alleged association with armed groups including those which are currently under sanctions enacted by the Security Council, or for national security reasons, surged to 3,018, further depriving children of their rights. The highest numbers of grave violations were verified in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory (8,554), the Democratic Republic of the Congo (4,043), Somalia (2,568), Nigeria (2,436) and Haiti (2,269). The sharpest percentage increases in the number of violations were verified in Lebanon (545%), Mozambique (525%), Haiti (490%), Ethiopia (235%) and Ukraine (105%).

(A preemptive note: These are verified cases; so the real numbers will be higher. In both conflicts, verifying every or even most cases is… tough.)

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/average-least-16-child...

> At least 2,406 children have been killed or injured since the escalation of the war in Ukraine nearly 1,000 days ago, according to the latest available verified reports.

egisspegis|5 months ago

High-end estimate for Gaza (provided by hamas, a well known terrorist group): 64 000. High-end for Mariupol (provided by Uppsala Conflict Data Program): 88 000.

When comparing numbers one should also compare high-end estimates vs. high-end estimates and conservative numbers vs. conservative numbers.