[nsedlet]

Another factor with the vibes being off (at least in the US): mass outsourcing of jobs thanks to remote work. You used to have to be a multinational company with global entities and offices. Now you can be a 10-person startup with half your people outside the country.

When the world went remote many folks were happy with the better work-life balance. But it means that we compete in a ruthless global labor market.

That's why companies rejecting remote work is good for the American worker in some ways.

[dingnuts]

"remote" can just mean "far enough from the financial district that I can afford a little space" as it turns out. You're not WRONG but just being in the same time zone as your coworkers gets you 90% of the in person benefits and, realistically, it's too hard to work with a team that is on a vastly different tz.

Local can still be better than global while still allowing people to work from home and convene in meat space as needed

[pjc50]

> companies rejecting remote work is good for the American worker

It's good for American real estate owners, who end up with more money as a result of this, both from offices and from staff who have to live in nearby high COL areas.

[elzbardico]

Small scale offshore outsourcing existed way before the pandemic and the big shift to remote. They used to call it software factories.

[throw725725168]

> Now you can be a 10-person startup with half your people outside the country.

You can be even if a multinational company moves their employees back to the office.

If you chop off your limbs, not everyone can compete at that game, but why play it in the first place?