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andrewjf | 5 months ago

What do you mean “separate from google”? Golang’s success is directly and exclusively based on google envy back in 2009-2012.

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lmm|5 months ago

Their point is that Golang has seen adoption and use outside the Google ecosystem, which is perhaps surprising, and something few other "company languages" have managed (e.g. Swift is actually quite a nice language design, but almost no-one uses it unless they're deeply involved with the Apple ecosystem).

0x073|5 months ago

Swift started as closed source language exclusive for apple devices. Apple never was developer friendly outside of their ecosystem.

If I think about swift I think about ios apps (I know it can be more today, but their marketing for this language wasn't good).

So apple never wanted big adoption outside of their devices.

hnlmorg|5 months ago

Sure, if you forget about C, Java, TypeScript, SQL, and many others.

Swift isn’t gaining much adoption because Apple aren’t putting much effort into promoting its use outside of the Apple ecosystem. And why would they when they don’t care about non-Apple stuff

lukaslalinsky|5 months ago

Go has two things going for it, it was created by legends, so it gained a lot of interest from the beginning, and it has an excellent and unique runtime, making it really ideal for network services that constantly wait for something, yet still being able to do CPU intensive work. The language itself is just "OK" and that's kind of the point of it.

zerocrates|5 months ago

I think they mean success in terms of Go being used outside Google? Versus hack/hhvm which had a pretty narrow window where it saw some limited outside adoption.