I wonder if we will be allowed to share this information in the future in someone knew a love one died in for profit hospital that might provoke violence against feel market believers.
> Isn't trading higher profit for +11% more deaths also violence?
I have a friend who firmly believes that speed limits higher than 50MPH are violence because they lead to increased deaths. He argues that if we cared about people's lives we would impose a strict 50MPH limit on the roads and even force all cars to top out at 50MPH from the factory.
There are millions of tradeoffs in the world where we could reduce deaths, but there's never and endpoint where it's truly done. It's really easy to imagine revenge on PE firms by crushing their profits for a noble cause, but the conversation becomes a lot murkier when the impact starts hitting closer to your own paycheck or lifestyle.
To the extent it is, people are universally guilty of it, unless you can find a clear bright line for which selfish(/rational) decisions are violent and which aren't. Is it some number of hops from the person who dies that makes the difference?
I think the replies splitting hairs on what is violence and what isn't is missing the point.
This is a hospital. A building designed for differentiating life and death and(hopefully) attempting to steer towards the former.
This isn't a speed limit or some other market where there's no ethical consumption. One doesn't choose going to a hospital. It's a place you go when you are at metaphorical gunpoint.
I wouldn't call it violence, but I think it's A Problem when companies have two viable policies, and they choose the one that is known by them to statistically cause more deaths.
On top of that, people will give them social cover for making this decision. Because, y'know, its just capitalism/business or whatever. It's not like they murdered someone, they just told their worker bees to do something they knew would kill more people than they had to.
overfeed|5 months ago
Aurornis|5 months ago
I have a friend who firmly believes that speed limits higher than 50MPH are violence because they lead to increased deaths. He argues that if we cared about people's lives we would impose a strict 50MPH limit on the roads and even force all cars to top out at 50MPH from the factory.
There are millions of tradeoffs in the world where we could reduce deaths, but there's never and endpoint where it's truly done. It's really easy to imagine revenge on PE firms by crushing their profits for a noble cause, but the conversation becomes a lot murkier when the impact starts hitting closer to your own paycheck or lifestyle.
tptacek|5 months ago
MSFT_Edging|5 months ago
This is a hospital. A building designed for differentiating life and death and(hopefully) attempting to steer towards the former.
This isn't a speed limit or some other market where there's no ethical consumption. One doesn't choose going to a hospital. It's a place you go when you are at metaphorical gunpoint.
immibis|5 months ago
bcrosby95|5 months ago
On top of that, people will give them social cover for making this decision. Because, y'know, its just capitalism/business or whatever. It's not like they murdered someone, they just told their worker bees to do something they knew would kill more people than they had to.