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xtajv | 5 months ago

It pains me to mention this but I don't think it's responsible not to: https://github.com/meshtastic/firmware/issues/4030

At time of writing (2025-09-27, plus or minus a timezone), there does not appear to be any serious attempt to secure application-layer message contents. (At least, not yet)

My hope is that this cool new radio link option will still gain traction and grow and develop without painting itself into a corner, security-wise.

To wit- security hints on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model have improved substantially since my last readthrough.

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mdevttt|5 months ago

As if the Meshtastic devs care about anything but pretending to be a business masquerading as an open source project.

They are quite possibly one of the most toxic projects right now.

NoiseBert69|5 months ago

Meshtastic is GPLv3. So all source code will always be available.

Meshcore is MIT licensed. And closed source applications already started to creep in. See the smartphone apps and the T-Echo implementation. This has already the classic smell of ham radio projects I honestly don't want to support.

The maintainers of MT are friendly. The people using it - not all of them. Like all community driven projects.

leetrout|5 months ago

I keep seeing folks in my circles playing with it but this is the first I have heard this opinion.

Could you elaborate?

kop316|5 months ago

Given the fact that your account looks to be specifically created for this comment....it would be good to have some sort of citation to back this up?

Hackbraten|5 months ago

At least in the linked issue, the project member who, on request of an outside contributor, reopened the issue seemed pretty open towards a fix?

pengaru|5 months ago

I saw some twitter-like shit comments on chi-mesh while visiting family in IL.

But I've seen nothing but friendly interactions on the SF bay mesh which is much larger and thriving.

Nothing seemed particularly toxic, not on either of these meshes. Considering it's an open system anyone can say anything on, I'm sure it'll devolve into chaos as it gets more popular.

But when it comes to toxicity I'm going to assume you're either referring to the Discord, or making shit up. Discord having its roots in gamers is known to be a dumpster fire and I expect nothing less than toxic behavior on any Discord "server".

I do not understand why people spend time on Discord to play with Meshtastic though. Play with the mesh, that's the whole point.

ahdanggit|5 months ago

I appreciate you pointing that out. I've been curious about meshastatic and wondered how well the encryption was being handled.