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juliushuijnk | 5 months ago

A group of civilians with guns stand no chance against an army without enforced laws keeping it in check.

Violence is not the solution.

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toomuchtodo|5 months ago

Force always remains the last line of self defense, and history has proven it works when all other non violent, peaceful options have been exhausted [1]. This doesn’t require you agree with that, nor is anyone advocating for force other than self defense here. Laws only matter if respected and enforced objectively and in good faith, and they should matter in this context. Whether you acted in good faith when defending yourself will hopefully be decided by a jury of your peers, if needed, versus a kangaroo court or other rigged evaluation.

I see in other comments you’re not suggesting people be armed. I always suggest one be armed and have training, because words have no value when your safety is in jeopardy, and your safety is your responsibility; no one else will assure it for you.

Lawyer. Passport. Locksmith. Gun. (A Talk About Risk and Preparedness) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33509164 - November 2022

[1] (American Revolution, Civil War, etc)

juliushuijnk|5 months ago

There are nuances to my statements that are difficult to make in text.

I was hoping to discuss ways on perhaps pointing out (and how to defend) the last institutions that prevents the US from being in a civil war or authocracy.

I'm also writing to, I guess, just express some shock on how the US still sort of functions like nothing is going on.

rolph|5 months ago

are you familiar with the war of independence.

genocide is not a solution either. when those that have been given consent to govern act in a manner that is an assualt against the people, the people are the last line of defense in such a situation, that is what 2A is about, enabling the people to have at least a long shot at regulating the militia that has been assimilated by a tyrant.

violence is not a solution until pacificm is a death sentence. every living thing on this planet has a right to defend itself and its posterity from attack. that doesnt mean laying down to be culled.

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=WvOZs3g3qIo

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=Y6ikO6LMxF4

juliushuijnk|5 months ago

While I undestand your reasoning. There are reasons for not wanting to call for violence on the internet.