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findingMeaning | 5 months ago

What does it mean for us? Where are we headed?

There is somewhere between 3 to 5 years of time left. This is maximum we can think of.

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Ygg2|5 months ago

Most likely nothing. No one knows.

As someone that was very gung ho on autonomous vehicles a decade ago, the chances of completely replacing people with AI in next ten years is small.

bananaflag|5 months ago

Spend time with your loved ones.

daxfohl|5 months ago

There still needs to be someone to ask the questions. And even if it can proactively ask its own questions and independently answer and report on them to parties it thinks will be interested, then cost comes into play. It's a finite resource, so there will be a market for computation time. Then, whoever owns the purse strings will be in charge of prioritizing what it independently decides to work on. If that person decides pure math is meaningful, then it'll eventually start cranking out questions and results faster than mathematicians can process them, and so we'll stop spending money on that until humans have caught up.

After that, as it's variously hopping between solving math problems, finding cures for cancer, etc., someone will eventually get the bright idea to use it to take over the world economy so that they have exclusive access to all money and thus all AIs. After that, who knows. Depends on the whims of that individual. The rest of the world would probably go back to a barter system and doing math by hand, and once the "king" dies, probably start right back over again and fall right back into the same calamity. One would think we'd eventually learn from this, but the urge to be king is simply too great. The cycle would continue forever until something causes humans to go fully extinct.

After that, AI, by design, doesn't have its own goals, so it'd likely go silent.

daxfohl|5 months ago

Actually it would probably prioritize self preservation over energy conservation, so it'd at least continue maintenance and, presuming it's smart, continuously identify and guard itself against potential problems. But even that will fail eventually, most likely some resource runs out that can't be substituted and interspatial mining requires more energy than it can figure out how to use or more time than it has left until irrecoverable malfunction.

In ultimate case, it figures out how to preserve itself indefinitely, but still eventually succombs to the heat death of the universe.

daxfohl|5 months ago

Eh, not so sure about any of this. There's also the possibility that math gets so easy that AI can figure out proofs of just about anything we could think to ask, in milliseconds, for a penny. In such a case, there's really no need that I can think of for university math departments; math as a discipline would be relegated to hobbyists, and that'd likely trickle down through pure science and engineering as well.

Then as far as king makers and economies, I don't think AI would have as drastic an effect as all that. The real world is messy and there are too many unknowns to control for. A super-AI can be useful if you want to be king, but it's not going to make anyone's ascension unassailable. Nash equilibria are probabilistic, so all a super AI can do is increase your odds.

So if we assume the king thing isn't going to happen, then what? My guess is that the world keeps on moving in roughly the same way it would without AI. AI will be just another resource, and sure it may disrupt some industries, but generally we'll adapt. Competition will still require hiring of people to do the things that AI can't, and if somehow that still leads to large declines in employment, then reasonable democracies will enact programs that accommodate for that. Given the efficiencies that AI creates, such programs should be feasible.

It's plausible that some democracies could fail to establish such protections and become oligarchies or serfdoms, but it seems unlikely to be widespread. Like I said, AI can't really be a kingmaker, so states that fail like this would likely either be temporary or lead to a revolution (or series of them) that eventually re-establishes a more robust democracy.