Big4 audit all have a leech class of boomer audit partners who won't let the advisory arm separate and want money. This is a great new income stream. Figure deloitte in particular will make out like bandits on this.
The commenter’s profile indicates they work for a major AI development companies — where being against AI regulation aligns nicely with one’s paycheck. See also the the scare quotes around AI safety.
We all have heard the dogma: regulation kills innovation. As if unbridled innovation is all that people and society care about.
I wonder if the commenter above has ever worked in an industry where a safety culture matters. Once you have, you see the world a little bit differently.
Large chunks of Silicon Valley have little idea about safety: not in automotive, not in medicine, not for people, and certainly not for longer-term risks.
So forgive us for not trusting AI labs to have good incentives.
When regulation isn’t as efficient as we’d like, that is a problem. But you have to factor what happens if we don’t have any regulation. Also, don’t forget to call out every instance of insider corruption, kickback deals, any industry collusion.
I welcome any substantive commentary and disagreement, as always.
I’m happy to stray outside the herd. HN needs more clearly articulated disagreement regarding AI regulation. I made my comment in response to what seemed like a simplistic, ideology-driven claim. Few wise hackers would make an analogous claim about a system they actually worked on. Thinking carefully about tech but phoning it in for other topics is a double standard.
Bare downvotes don't indicate (much less explain) one's rationale. I can’t tell if I (1) struck a nerve (an emotional response); (2) conjured a contentious philosophy (i.e. we have a difference in values or preferences or priorities), (3) made a logical error, (4) broke some norm or expectation, or (5) something else. Such a conflation of downvotes pushes me away from HN for meaningful discussion.
I’ve lived/worked on both coasts, Austin, and more, and worked at many places (startups, academic projects, research labs, gov't, not-for-profits, big tech) and I don’t consider myself defined by any one place or culture. But for the context of AI regulation, I have more fundamental priorities than anything close to "technical innovation at all costs".
P.S. (1) If a downvote here is merely an expression of “I’m a techno-libertarian” or "how dare you read someone's HN profile page and state the obvious?" or any such shallow disagreement, then IMO that’s counterproductive. If you want to express your viewpoint, make it persuasive rather than vaguely dismissive with an anonymous, unexplained downvote. (2) Some people do the thing where they guess at why someone else downvoted. That’s often speculation.
landl0rd|5 months ago
KurSix|5 months ago
xpe|5 months ago
We all have heard the dogma: regulation kills innovation. As if unbridled innovation is all that people and society care about.
I wonder if the commenter above has ever worked in an industry where a safety culture matters. Once you have, you see the world a little bit differently.
Large chunks of Silicon Valley have little idea about safety: not in automotive, not in medicine, not for people, and certainly not for longer-term risks.
So forgive us for not trusting AI labs to have good incentives.
When regulation isn’t as efficient as we’d like, that is a problem. But you have to factor what happens if we don’t have any regulation. Also, don’t forget to call out every instance of insider corruption, kickback deals, any industry collusion.
xpe|5 months ago
I’m happy to stray outside the herd. HN needs more clearly articulated disagreement regarding AI regulation. I made my comment in response to what seemed like a simplistic, ideology-driven claim. Few wise hackers would make an analogous claim about a system they actually worked on. Thinking carefully about tech but phoning it in for other topics is a double standard.
Bare downvotes don't indicate (much less explain) one's rationale. I can’t tell if I (1) struck a nerve (an emotional response); (2) conjured a contentious philosophy (i.e. we have a difference in values or preferences or priorities), (3) made a logical error, (4) broke some norm or expectation, or (5) something else. Such a conflation of downvotes pushes me away from HN for meaningful discussion.
I’ve lived/worked on both coasts, Austin, and more, and worked at many places (startups, academic projects, research labs, gov't, not-for-profits, big tech) and I don’t consider myself defined by any one place or culture. But for the context of AI regulation, I have more fundamental priorities than anything close to "technical innovation at all costs".
P.S. (1) If a downvote here is merely an expression of “I’m a techno-libertarian” or "how dare you read someone's HN profile page and state the obvious?" or any such shallow disagreement, then IMO that’s counterproductive. If you want to express your viewpoint, make it persuasive rather than vaguely dismissive with an anonymous, unexplained downvote. (2) Some people do the thing where they guess at why someone else downvoted. That’s often speculation.