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jalk | 5 months ago

You must have some other sources than that site. Downloaded the CSV, and at the risk of misinterpreting the columns here is some simple filtering:

% of total energy generation

  EU Coal   9.64%
  US Coal  14.88%  
  CH Coal  57.77%

  EU Solar 11.19%
  US Solar  6.91%
  CH Solar  8.32%
Largest generation source

  EU Nuclear 23.57%
  US Gas     42.51%
  CH Coal    57.77%
This ofc only says something about generation and not consumption

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xbmcuser|5 months ago

One of the biggest thing a lot of people are missing is that from this year Solar + battery became cheaper than coal in China. And avg annual price decline for solar and battery is still around 8-10% ie if you don't go to solar and electric machinery you will not be able to compete with China as they are about to reach the point in the next 10 year where electricity/energy is practically free.

eucyclos|5 months ago

It is weird to me that nobody wants to import Chinese electric cars. If Chinese investors and politicians are really subsidizing the production of electric cars, importing them would be basically having the new grid subsidized by a foreign government!

mrtksn|5 months ago

Look at the absolute values, your kettle doesn't run of fractions it runs on absolute power and EU&US are about the same. USA has fractionally lower renewables because they have very large fossil production. EU is making up for its lack of fossils through high efficiency policies.

Aperocky|5 months ago

But EU + US's total power generation only added up to 70% of CN's total in 2024 according to this graph.

kragen|5 months ago

CH? I don't think Switzerland is majority coal. Maybe you meant ZH or CN?