[throwaway127482]

Engineers who are smart enough / talented enough, and who feel secure, can push back on security issues even if it will hold up a deal. This tells me that the most valuable engineers at Red Hat either do not push back enough on security concerns, or don't care enough (or aren't experienced enough) to know that the concerns exist in the first place, or they feel insecure in their position.

[array_key_first]

Ultimately, devs can't get sales reps fired, but sales reps can absolutely get devs fired.

Depending on how dysfunctional the org is, there's no super dev anywhere who can fix it. You just shut up, do bad things knowing theyre bad, or get fired.

[anthk]

It should be the opposite. For every big engineering issue happened because of the sales' dept pressures, the sales reps would have their asses out of any company.