[glonq]

"Israel accused the IPC of lowering the second threshold of acutely malnourished children for a famine declaration, which the IPC has denied."

Damn, Israel is really arguing about how much child starvation they are allowed to inflict before it becomes egregious?

That might be another one of those "are we the baddies?" moments right there.

[BJones12]

Definitions matter. It's possible for an organization to redefine "acutely malnourished" as less than 4000 Cal/day, and then use that to make an accusation. Is that reasonable? No, because that does not match reality. It's unreasonable to criticize pushback on changing definitions because definitions should be pushed toward reality.

[basisword]

As you say definitions matter - so let's not invent hypothetical scenarios to dismiss points.

Israel was not arguing about the definition of 'acute malnourished'. The threshold for famine is 15%. The IPC said it had just hit 16% and was thus a famine. Israel was arguing that other data showed it was only 12.2-13.5% and therefore not a famine. When you get to the point of arguing "only 12% of the children are starving, not 16%" you probably shouldn't bother.

[falconroar]

Are Gazans receiving adequate nutrition? If not, why are we discussing semantics?

[wat10000]

Does this particular (supposed) definition change matter here? Because if it doesn't, pushback by the aggressor is heinous and obviously disingenuous even if your abstract love of accuracy means you happen to agree with the objection.

[phgn]

Sent by whom?

Also, the Israeli government cannot be trusted.

Their whole strategy since 1948 has been about distracting the Palestinians with fake peace processes that were never meant to lead to anything.

(see the book "The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine")

[Braxton1980]

But the acceptance of the deal is up to Hamas and not the people starving.

[potatototoo99]

If we were to believe Israel, why did they ban foreign media from Gaza? I'm sure the "most moral" army in the world has nothing to hide?

[throwup238]

> Yet Israel is the baddies and America/the Allies are sited as doing the correct thing even though they had equal or less food going in.

If Israel institutes a Marshall Plan equivalent that rebuilds Gaza/West Bank to the NEMA equivalent of West Germany and Japan, then maybe decades from now their actions will receive the same deference that the historical actions of the Allies have now.