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markessien | 5 months ago

Being forced into a never ending apartheid situation may also be the reason. Give them voting rights or give them a state, it's pretty simple.

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dotancohen|5 months ago

Since the 1990s Israel has been trying to give them a state, to varying degrees. They got civil and security autonomy in Areas A of the West Bank, for example. And Israel pulled her citizens out of the Gaza strip in 2005.

The problem is that the PA, who rules the West Bank are extremely corrupt, and Hamas is committed to Israel's destruction. Neither side has been actually performing all the functions of state, UNRWA has been doing that.

markessien|5 months ago

The PM of Israel has stated: The Palestinians will NEVER have a state.

What part of that statement did I misunderstand? Israel's stated policy is this: No State for the Palestinians, no Civil Rights. This is clear.

gatlin|4 months ago

> They got

First problem: not Israel's to give.

> The problem is that the PA, who rules the West Bank are extremely corrupt, and Hamas is committed to Israel's destruction.

The Ministry of Strategic Affairs couldn't have put it better...

jameshilliard|5 months ago

> Being forced into a never ending apartheid situation may also be the reason.

An occupation is not apartheid.

> Give them voting rights

Israel tried that...Palestinians straight up voted for Hamas terrorists[0] who promptly eliminated voting rights(although based on opinion polling Hamas would likely be elected again).

> give them a state

Israel tried moving towards that in Gaza[1], it backfired spectacularly leading to the current conflict.

Any other ideas on how to move towards peaceful coexistence? I think the first step is some sort of de-radicalization program, but not sure how one would implement that.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_e...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_the...

markessien|5 months ago

Israel has said: The Palestinians will never have a state. They have also said - the Palestinians will never vote in Israel. Is this not apartheid?