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Netcob | 4 months ago

For some more recent crimes against society and humanity, I'd also compare it to Stasi. Plenty of people alive today who lived with that.

Around 1 in 30 people was secretly telling on their neighbors. After unification, it was presented as a dark chapter in German history that had finally come to an end. People would get to look into their own "file" to see what and how much had been written about their daily activities. I was a bit young at the time, but I do remember frequent discussions on TV about how to move on from this, and how to make sure it doesn't happen again.

And now we're talking about reading everyone's private messages on a scale that would be the Stasi's wet dream.

I wonder - if the Stasi had been presented as a legitimate way to fight CSAM - would that have been okay?

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beezlewax|4 months ago

The Stasi while more recent and more correct a name to use here are still something not everyone knows about to the same extent as the gestapo.

volkl48|4 months ago

In Germany they certainly do.

clickety_clack|4 months ago

Stasi works better if this is a purely German question, but this is an international issue. Gestapoware is way more obvious than Stasiware for people outside Germany, while both surely resonate inside the country.

1718627440|4 months ago

They did say these protesting on the street are outlaws who also rape and kill the little children.

petre|4 months ago

Unsurprisingly the Stasi and Gestapo types always say things like that.

some_random|4 months ago

The trouble is that the Stasi are not seen in as negative of a light as the Gestapo.

godelski|4 months ago

In Germany?

I'm not German but the German people I do know don't see them positively. But could be selection bias