[grumpyprole]

The JVM famously boxes everything though, probably because it was originally designed to run a dynamic language. An array list of floats is an array list of pointers. This created an entire cottage industry of alternative collections libraries with concrete array list implementations.

[ysleepy]

A float[] is packed and not a list of pointers in the jvm.

An ArrayList<Float> is a list of pointers though.

[grumpyprole]

Arrays have a static fixed size though, making them far less useful in practice. Anything one builds with generics is boxed. Dotnet doesn't have this problem.

[vips7L]

They're famously working on changing that. I think we're all hopeful that we'll start seeing the changes from Valhalla roll in post-25.