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emilsedgh | 4 months ago

I see a lot of negative comments here but to me, it was obvious this is where OAI should land.

They want to be the platform in which you tell what you want, and OAI does it for you. It's gonna connect to your inbox, calendar, payment methods, and you'll just ask it to do something and it will, using those apps.

This means OAI won't need ads. Just rev share.

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dewitt|4 months ago

> This means OAI won't need ads. Just rev share

If OpenAI thinks there’s sweet, sweet revenue in email and calendar apps, just waiting to be shared, their investors are in for a big surprise.

dawnerd|4 months ago

Zapier has been doing this for how long and no one talks about them like some hot new startup.

nicce|4 months ago

> This means OAI won't need ads.

Ads are defenitely there. Just hidden so deeply in the black box which is generating the useful tips :)

thebigkick|4 months ago

If you ask it to build a headless frontend web app, it immediately starts generating code with Next.js. I’ve always wondered how it was trained to default to that choice, given the smorgasbord of web frameworks out there. Next.js is solid, but it’s also platform-ware, tightly coupled to commercial interests. I wish there were more bias toward genuinely open-source technologies.

aniviacat|4 months ago

I wonder what the ad labeling (according to EU law) would look like in that case.

In my (non-lawyer) understanding, each message potentially containing sponsored content (which would be every message, if the bias is encoded in the LLM itself,) would need to be marked as an ad individually.

That would make for an odd user interface.

GoatInGrey|4 months ago

Because the AI labs are just hovering up all internet text that they can, I've been seeing more and more marketing pilots that deliberately seed marketing material in thousands of fake, AI-generated blogs and tutorials. The intention here is to get new LLMs to train on these huge numbers of associations between specific use cases and the company's product. All in a way that gets their marketing information into the final weights.

You may have started seeing this when LLMs seem to promote things based entirely on marketing claims and not on real-world functionality.

More or less, SEO spam V2.

jimmydoe|4 months ago

> This means OAI won't need ads. Just rev share.

They obviously want both. In fact they are already building an ad team.

They have money they have to burn, so it makes sense to throw all the scalable business models in the history, eg app store, algo feed, etc, to the wall and see what stick.

seydor|4 months ago

A platform requires a user moat or unfair advantage. Having a better quality model is neither

famouswaffles|4 months ago

Consumer LLM apps have moat. As it is, ChatGPT (the app) spends most of its compute on Personal Non work messages (approx 1.9B per day vs 716 for Work)[0]. First, from ongoing conversations that users would return to, then to the pushing of specific and past chat memories, these conversations have become increasingly personalized. Suddenly, there is a lot of personal data that you rely on it having, that make the product better. You cannot just plop over to Gemini and replicate this.

[0] https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w34255/w342...

typpilol|4 months ago

How's having the best model not a most?

therealdrag0|4 months ago

Don’t they already have ads? I think I’ve seen sponsored results when asking for product recommendations. Maybe misremembering tho.