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florkbork | 4 months ago

Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.coop

Think about all of the organisational structures you know of.

Then ask yourself how is a cooperative fundamentally untrustworthy?

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hatthew|4 months ago

My first-order heuristic is that legitimate websites tend to get one of the top TLDs (.com/.org, maybe .net/.io). In general, why should I trust domain_name.xyz over domain_name.com? There are obvious caveats, e.g. it doesn't matter as much for generic words like "gem" and for personal sites that I don't trust much in the first place. In this case, 3 seconds of critical thinking makes it clear that they have a plausible reason for choosing .coop. But given that much of this controversy is premised on toolchain trust, there's plenty of other domains that seem even more trustworthy to me at first glance, e.g. gem-lib.org, gemcoop.org, stuff like that.

Again, a domain name is pretty minor in the scope of this whole fiasco, and I wouldn't have bothered with bringing up this point, but on balance I agree with it.

ajb|4 months ago

Using .coop is actually a costly signal that you are, in fact and in law, a cooperative; and intend to stay one; since non-cooperatives are not allowed to occupy those domains. Dot Org, while it's used by a lot of well known organisations, is an open domain that anyone can register in.

Of course, it's also true that many people won't have the spare time to find that out.

krainboltgreene|4 months ago

> My first-order heuristic is that legitimate websites tend to get one of the top TLDs (.com/.org, maybe .net/.io)

This is so funny to hear after 18 years in the west coast silicon-valley lead tech industry. All of the app, io, tv, tech, guru, and now ai I've seen and only when it's "coop" does anyone complain.

ruurd|4 months ago

<quote>legitimate websites tend to get one of the top TLDs</quote> yeah. Sorry. That is unsubstantiated and by no means a good measure of trustworthyness.

gowld|4 months ago

Nothing here instills trust or makes me want to learn more.

https://register.coop/

https://register.coop/services/