[csar]

OP is one of the co-creators of Django (for which I am eternally grateful, having built my first company on top of it) and one of the most prolific writers in the space. I also happen to strongly agree with his assessment, though as he said getting that amount of value out of current tools is real work.

[danielbln]

It is real work, and it requires solid priors to do it. The cynical people punch three prompts in, are disappointed that it doesn't work in their codebase they've worked in for 2 decades and complain that everyone is a shill and that people should stop saying they "hold it wrong".

The skill ceiling is high, it turns out. It's just deceptive, because it's so easy to get going. Ultra accessible foot gun, lots of work to point it in the right direction reliably and repeatedly. Significant benefits of you manage though.

I've gotten more relaxed about it now though. People will either get it or they don't.