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barbarr | 4 months ago

This and stock buybacks make me question company valuations

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redwood|4 months ago

Stock buyback is effectively just a dividend with a different tax implication: reducing the number of shares in circulation raises the ownership stake of the remaining shares

danans|4 months ago

> Stock buyback is effectively just a dividend with a different tax implication

Not just different, it specifically a lower tax rate assuming that the stockholder has held long enough to use the long term capital gains tax rate (which lower than the dividend tax rate).

ctkhn|4 months ago

Stock buyback isn't a total scam as it seems, but it does mean "we can't figure out any productive use case for this cash in advancing R&D or scaling our business anymore" which is still pretty worrying

petesergeant|4 months ago

By that logic, any profit a company distributes to shareholders is worrying.

yen223|4 months ago

I suppose stock buybacks are similar to dividends in that regard

BobbyTables2|4 months ago

It’s more like, “the executives with lots of shares can’t see how to make the company grow, so they’ll just use profits to pump up the share price for their gain”.

I deeply feel buybacks shouldn’t be illegal but treated shamefully.

Instead of using profits to build up long term savings or fund R&D, they basically choose to do as little as possible.

There is no vision.