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zubiaur | 4 months ago

Losing faith in the value of the dollar in the face of our crazy fiscal position?

The one thing that baffles me is energy prices. We haven't seen this oil/gold ratio since the pandemic, when demand for oil plummeted.

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hshdhdhj4444|4 months ago

All of this is consistent with expectations of a slowdown or recession.

The only exception is the stock market but I believe there’s a lot of literature that if you remove the AI stocks from that there isn’t much S&P growth either.

Additionally with the dollar dropping over 10% the stock market real increase isn’t as high as it appears either.

ruined|4 months ago

for the past century, the global economy has been a machine for turning fossil fuel into money. carbon output was very directly correlated with growth. that hasn't really changed yet but the writing is on the wall.

also, manufacturing and shipping just fell off a cliff.

HPsquared|4 months ago

EVs and renewables might account for reduced oil price.

syncsynchalt|4 months ago

Renewables are a quarter of electricity generation now, and in some states are the majority of generation. They're also a decent chunk of all energy though that number's harder to pin down.

GDP is no longer tied to fuel consumption. You can't fight near-free "fuel" and near-zero opex, the renewables slice is only going to increase. I wouldn't trust any metric or rule of thumb tied to coal/oil/gas prices any longer.

JKCalhoun|4 months ago

EVs appear (to this midwesterner) to be in the noise. Renewables though…

pwarner|4 months ago

I was just wondering if oil is the next asset to inflate.