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ICE-tracking app developers aren’t giving up

68 points| BallsInIt | 4 months ago |wired.com

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k310|4 months ago

Do not obey in advance

Historian Timothy Snyder’s first lesson in his book On Tyranny is “Do not obey in advance.” To obey a tyrant before you are compelled to do so teaches them what they will be able to get you to do, easily, without even needing to expend the resources and energy it takes to carry out that part of their agenda.

IT4MD|4 months ago

But..but... the profits!

Who will think of the uber-wealthy?!?!?!

mieses|4 months ago

I like this tactic - when my enemy is using it.

People vs tyrant thinking ignores the world beyond your bubble (your borders). Elegant in theory but impractical.

tfwnopmt|4 months ago

Why not make a PWA? What does a full app offer that a PWA can't?

gdulli|4 months ago

Access to a passive user base that only knows of the App Store and software they've been given permission to run.

JumpCrisscross|4 months ago

Just make it a website. The PWA brand doesn’t really work anymore, outside developer circles.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF|4 months ago

> To maintain anonymity and store zero user data, there is and can be no web app version of ICEBlock. There is and can be no Android version. Only iOS supports the security and privacy features for ICEBlock to offer what it does, the way it does.

I don't know if that's true but that's their claim

mieses|4 months ago

What is the big deal about apps? Is the app store their cathedral? Why can't they use shady web sites like the rest of us common infidels?

leakycap|4 months ago

Tim Cook has lost all credibility after his kowtowing to the trump administration. Apple needs a new leader, and not the guy who sheepishly launched the $999 monitor stand.

It's hard to escape using Apple devices, but the company's actions under trump have made me into a consumer open to other options.

If the Apple phone and the Chinese-brand are both going to bow to their respective authoritarian government, it makes the cheaper, better spec'd non-Apple options much more appealing.

bigyabai|4 months ago

I don't know where people got the impression that Apple seriously resisted government coercion. Their company is right there in the PRISM leaks, and Senator Wyden called them out (alongside Google) on backdooring Push Notifications years ago.

Didn't people want Apple's thoughtful, executive curation? If you're still not switching phones, what gives? Apple won this fight years ago, I'm shocked that we only now see people lift pitchforks and complain. You fought for your ability to resist sideloading and this is your just deserts. It's the phone you wanted.

spacedcowboy|4 months ago

Why does anything remotely critical of Trumps fascist regime get [flagged] on Hacker News ?

resters|4 months ago

Probably fear of retribution or Garry being politically conservative himself. Garry has repeatedly called for more authoritarian policing in the SF area.

k310|4 months ago

Trolls. I hadn't even noticed until I read your post.

inemesitaffia|4 months ago

Because Bush was a fascist and McCain and Romney were going to be too.