[yostrovs]

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[dtech]

I would rather give the "Fire Safety" prize to the people who installed sprinklers and smoke alarms than to firefighters

[ineedasername]

And what does that look like in this context, eligible countries that haven’t been at war in a while get together at pat each other on the back?

[jeltz]

You may think that but Alfred Nobel disagreed and it is his prize. If she fits the criteria is another question but it was certainly not intended to just be about real wars and real peace (whatever that is).

    den som har verkat mest eller best för folkens förbrödrande och afskaffande
    eller minskning af stående arméer samt bildande och spridande af
    fredskongresser

    shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations,
    for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and
    promotion of peace congresses

English translation is taken from Wikipedia and not totally exact but close enough.

[johanvts]

Relevant in this context: The translation introduces “nations” , but the original talks about peace between “people”.

[littlestymaar]

How is the quote contradicting GP's position?

From the quote it doesn't seem like Alfred Nobel had civil or political rights in mind with his prize. (Not that it bothers me to give it to civil rights activists though)

[markjenkinswpg]

Consider this. There are circumstances in Venezuela that some would consider worthy of a civil war. This award winner has chosen peaceful resistance, acts that may have prevented war.

[bmmayer1]

Who would you give the Nobel Peace Prize to?

[DSingularity]

Is that even a question!? Ben Gvir, Smotrich, or Mileikowsky.

For raising the bar so high.

[delichon]

From the New York Times "The Daily" podcast today:

  Mark, what you've described and what we're seeing unfold is genuinely an impressive feat by Trump. To be able to capitalize on what seemed like this giant setback. Israel literally bombed the negotiators and the mediators. To turn that around and get a deal that Biden couldn't get done, that no other leader in the world had managed despite trying for two years straight. It is significant achievement. He was able to bring these sides together that had shown no willingness to end the war. And now they've come to this agreement. And it should also be said that one of the biggest things here is that he was willing to put pressure on Netanyahu in a way that President Biden was unwilling to do. Why do you think that's the case?
  I think there's a few reasons. First, I think Trump genuinely wanted to end the war. He campaigned on ending the war in Ukraine and in Gaza.

Too late for this year, but if it holds it should be considered for next year.

[ErneX]

There’s kidnapping, imprisonment, torture and rape of political dissidents.

They created an exodus of 8 million people.

Starved the population.

Killed people in the thousands in the favelas and other poor areas without a trial.

Steals elections.

To me that’s a regime at war with its own population and it deserves all the condemnation possible and all the support necessary to help transition back to democracy.

[pydry]

What he is being accused of is a tiny fraction of what has been proven to have taken place in Gaza, under the protection of the west.

Yet the aircraft carriers are poised in the gulf to enact a third regime change operation in this oil rich country America wants under its thumb with a puppet running it.

This is the PR campaign beforehand, just like the "WMD" PR campaign in the run up to Iraq, with a woman who supports genocide in Gaza (https://x.com/VenteVenezuela/status/1286346531591852036 ) being lauded with a nobel peace prize. This is probably to lend her legitimacy when she becomes that puppet.

Saddam was a bad man too but he was an average evil. The warmongers who want to destabilize every country with oil, send in the tanks and install yet another Western puppet to maintain an iron grip on global oil supplies are a very special and unique kind of evil.

[madacol]

... and yet the consequences of what's going is as if there was war, the economy is suffering as if there was war, the people are fleeing as if there was war and dying as if there was war

You don't need a war to have a lack of Peace!

[lentil_soup]

to add to your comment, check out the list of the biggest refugee crises: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_refugee_crises

Venezuela is number 5 by the number of displaced people, the rest are all wars, it's crazy for a country at peace

[yostrovs]

But then there are dozens of impoverished and unjust places on earth. I think the reality is that the five exclusively Norwegian politicians on the Peace prize committee are politicians. And they act accordingly. What if the committee would consist of Russian politicians exclusively, or Venezuelan ones?

[raverbashing]

I don't know honestly if some people feed on negative attention or if they just live their life trying to fit square pegs into round holes

[nelsnelson]

Obvious false equivalency fallacy.

Everyone you don't like is Hitler.

Democracy is not just when more than one "party".

Just because a fascist or fascist adjacent party is disallowed, does not mean democracy is absent.