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Naru41 | 4 months ago

This style of simulating faux-realistic materials (such as glass or aluminum) on the screen looks dated and cheesy now -- (Windows engineering team 2012)

https://web.archive.org/web/20120614042824/http://blogs.msdn...

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"Cheesy and dated" -- it keeps hitting me through the years.

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CjHuber|4 months ago

Oh wow, a statement like this coming from a blog entry about creating windows 8?? Maybe it has to do with that I‘m Gen Z but I absolutely love Frutiger Aero. It never looked cheesy, first it was modern then it was nostalgic. All meanwhile I still have trauma from the hideous Metro tiles.

tavavex|4 months ago

I'm also gen Z. For me the reaction to Windows Aero was similar, but I guess that's just how it is because it's what we grew up with. The blog post is talking about imitating materials in general though, and I can totally see how it can be taken too far. Think putting wood PNGs as backgrounds for app elements or adding brushed aluminium textures on sliders, things like those look pretty dated to me now. I'm guessing the Microsoft designers just had a far lower tolerance for that stuff, since IMO Windows 7 was very tame in terms of this - it felt just abstractly transparent and shiny more than skeuomorphic.

Metro was also just pretty bad on its own, irrespective of what came before or after. It was way too simplified, and despite that everything was HUGE so you could really see every bit of detail that was taken away. As usual, Microsoft was chasing the big new thing that never came by designing half the OS around tablet PCs. Windows 10 toned it down like how 7 toned down on Vista, and after that it was pretty alright for me. A much better example of a UI that came out then and aged well was Android 5 with Material Design.

sph|4 months ago

Must be a Gen Z meme because it was traumatic for those that lived it. It reminds me of Windows Vista and, my god, the first few years of KDE 4 - it has taken me until last year to try KDE again (and finally it has shed it’s silly hard contrast black transparency phase)

Gen Z like it because of nostalgia, not because of quality or because it actually looks any good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plasma_Workspaces.png - ugh.

disqard|4 months ago

Nice find! Thanks for sharing.

There's always "old wine in new bottle", but this latest take by Apple seems a bit too gratuitous.

Time will tell whether it's a flop -- I'm inclined to believe this is evidence that they're on par with MS now, and their solidly creative streak is over.

fnordpiglet|4 months ago

Yes making everything skeuomorphic is the ultimate finger in Ivy’s eye for no apparent reason other than it was very different and got some designers promoted. They had to answer the “iOS isn’t changing a lot” with something so they went with the dumbest regression ever.

Now when I try to hit send in messages I often have to hit it twice because it has to show the dumb flash which requires a longer delay than I’m used to in order to register the send. There is no aspect the redeems it and many that damn it.