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drexlspivey | 4 months ago

Does an “open source” model the way you describe it exist or is it a mythical creature?

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qcoret|4 months ago

Unicorns also don't exist, but we don't change the definition to include horses.

jakupovic|4 months ago

Prove to me that unicorns don't exist, first level arguments only!

ayewo|4 months ago

An open source model does exist now [1] and is multilingual. Previous discussion [2].

[1] https://ethz.ch/en/news-and-events/eth-news/news/2025/07/a-l...

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44535637

CaptainOfCoit|4 months ago

It does, but does it matter? Even if every software released in 2025 was proprietary, doesn't make their published binaries "open source" because no other software could be classified as "open source".

We name things based on what they are, not based on the lack of other things.

omneity|4 months ago

There aren’t many but they do exist. OLMo for example.

Rattled|4 months ago

Olmo by AllenAI and Pythia by EleutherAI.

kaufmann|4 months ago

Apertus by EPFL and ETH Zürich.

ekianjo|4 months ago

I believe it does. OLMO.