[isolatedsystem]

Yes. I'm over the hatred for Electron too. Programmers have few options if they want cross-platform compatibility without Electron. What else are they going to use? QT? Please, give me a break. Some angelic developers like the KeepassXC guys still use QT, but that is a tough road to go down on. For the rest of them, Electron Or Bust I'm afraid.

[bigstrat2003]

I would unironically rather have nothing than an Electron app in most cases. They are that bad. And in this case the app doesn't even add anything of value. Literally any email application will let you do the same thing.

[wiseowise]

> I would unironically rather have nothing than an Electron app in most cases.

So let me understand something: you obviously have a free will to not use something, but you would prefer something TO NOT exist and NOT solve problems for users, because you hate the technology so much?

[dymk]

What is that bad about them?

[dima55]

There are multiple cross-platform gui toolkits. What's wrong with QT?

[fragmede]

Using QT is complex for commerical products.

[wiseowise]

> Using C++ for frontend (no, QML does not help)

> Licensing costs

> Atrocious DX

> Still non-native UI

No problem at all.

[ozgrakkurt]

Why do they even need an app if they use electron?

Even discord is basically the same thing in the browser

[JodieBenitez]

Tauri or similar webview integrations ? Even though it is based on the OS’s native web renderer, so prone to break.

[throawayonthe]

tauri sucks on linux right now because there isn't a good "system webview" available

hoping servo makes it better

[echelon]

Tauri needs to bite the bullet and bundle Chromium.

[justmarc]

Flutter is a pretty good alternative.

[wiseowise]

Even worse performance on Web and Desktop, very good indeed.