[terandle]

> Think of it like WWII, only only instead of planting victory gardens to beat the Nazis, we're building AI apps and finding ways to create the economic value needed to cover the reckless bets being made by the elites.

LOL fuck this, the stock market deserves to burn to the ground.

[CuriouslyC]

While there are a lot of problems with the current market dynamics, burning it to the ground would cause a ridiculous amount of suffering. We need to spin up a new alternative then wind down the market gently.

[Fernicia]

When did the HackerNews comment section turn into this? Low quality, aggressive, fervently anti-establishment.

[terandle]

I'm anti-establishment because the establishment doesn't care about anyone but themselves. What are we doing all this work for? Progress would be getting universal healthcare for all in this country. Getting better work life balance. Being able to afford a home. Now it's just all the "haves" fighting bitterly to keep getting more and more until they have everything and nothing for anyone else.

[elzbardico]

That's one negative quality that Hacker News always had to me, compared to older hacker spaces such as newsgroups and Slashdot: The Petit bourgeois conformism and materialism. People always drunk the Venture Capital pseudo-libertarian cool-aid with too much enthusiasm here.

Being anti-establishment should not be viewed as a sin, unless in extreme cases.

[philipwhiuk]

Anti-establishment is sort of a requirement for doing a start-up.

Aggressiveness is a requirement for doing a start-up in times of constrained capitalism

Low quality is driven the by the availability of capital for dumb ideas.

So... a while now?

[dimitrios1]

I have noticed that it coincides with the re-election of a certain political candidate (He who must not be named).

The facade of "critical and rational thinker" has all but completely fallen away and this place has revealed itself for the true ideological echo chamber that it is.

[sph]

Some of us just want to see the (AI) world burn.

[marcosdumay]

Have you looked at the establishment recently?

[PerfectElement]

I agree. HN basically became Reddit.

[sensanaty]

Since when are Hackers™ pro establishment? Also what's wrong with being anti-establishment exactly, especially the current one, or really most of the recent neoliberal ones?

[hitarpetar]

won't somebody think of the establishment

[SamoyedFurFluff]

The only problem is that the stock market is tied to a bunch of retirement/pension and other accounts. Yes stock market should burn to the ground but also I think pensioners and retirees shouldn’t be put out, just the finance bros and private equity folks which money is just a plaything.

[philipwhiuk]

Pensioners and retirees willingly dumping money into index funds without oversight are the dumb money that enables all of this.

So yes, they deserve a haircut.