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gaindustries | 4 months ago

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raw_anon_1111|4 months ago

And this type of naïveté is why the left always loses. If the last election doesn’t wake people up nothing will. People want someone to represent them that hates the same people they hate. Who shares their grievances and punishes people who don’t look or think like them. That’s at least the case of 40%% of Americans who still support everything the current administration does.

This has always been “who we are” despite what Michelle Obama says.

Then people reply about “what about the other 60%”. If you have 10 friends and ask them what they want to eat for dinner and 6 say let’s get Mexican and the other 4 say let’s kill Bob and eat him. You still need to be concerned about your friend group.

mothballed|4 months ago

Bob should be able to secede from such a democracy, which was arguably an implied right of a voluntary union up until the Civil War. Otherwise democracy is just a tyranny of the majority, and bob is only 2 votes away from being dinner and legitimately so.

x3n0ph3n3|4 months ago

Not everyone wants a better society, nor agrees on what a better society even looks like. It's a common mistake to believe your adversary is just like you, but terribly confused.

wat10000|4 months ago

That’s not opposed to what I’m saying. Lots of people want a better society and think that “better” involves powerful people wielding it against people they don’t like. Everybody is the hero of their own story. The Nazis thought they were making the world a better place by murdering all the undesirables.

And I never said I was better. I nearly added a “and this isn’t exclusive to one side” addendum to my comment, but decided that would just derail my point. Maybe I should have.

potato3732842|4 months ago

>That’s not opposed to what I’m saying. Lots of people want a better society and think that “better” involves powerful people wielding it against people they don’t like. Everybody is the hero of their own story. The Nazis thought they were making the world a better place by murdering all the undesirables.

Exactly. The boomers thought they were making the world a better place with their 1960s environmentalism regulation and zoning. Turns out they mostly just teed up a housing crisis 50yr later.

conartist6|4 months ago

I really hate to be the one to break this to you, but humans are a kind of animal

card_zero|4 months ago

They're also a kind of growth medium for bacteria, a kind of vector for memes, a kind of informal unit of measurement and a kind of meat. What about it.

aredox|4 months ago

A better society for who?

>You are no better, my friend.

I resent them for their choices and their dishonesty. Things they chose to be and could change if they were open to discussion in good faith - which they refuse.

They resent me and millions of others for my skin color or my sexual orientation or where I was born. Things I never chose and can't change.

DaSHacka|4 months ago

The funny thing is I have no idea what side you're talking about.