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ShrimpHawk | 4 months ago

> The reason I want maximum punishment is that it works, it does deter

People disagree with you not of opinion but because you are factually wrong.

"Evidence shows lengthy prison terms do not have a significant deterrent effect on crime" https://ccla.org/criminal-justice/no-longer-prison-sentences...

"Research Shows That Long Prison Sentences Don’t Actually Improve Safety" https://www.vera.org/news/research-shows-that-long-prison-se...

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throwmeaway222|4 months ago

most of this research is fake you know.

For example this was going around for a long time:

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/debu...

Then this happened in 2025 when there was a crack-down on crime:

https://counciloncj.org/crime-trends-in-u-s-cities-mid-year-...

Also, 1% of the population is responsible for most of the crime

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/

So if you end up jailing people, the crime just goes down.

Also, then if that's true, then cancel all murder prison sentences!

drdaeman|4 months ago

I don't understand the argument here. Both can be true, as those two statements don't really conflict:

1. Longer sentences could have no effect on crime rates.

2. Persecuting people for crimes lowers crime rates.

Honestly, to me it reads as "law enforcement is a good idea, prolonged incarceration is questionable".